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Old 05-13-2010, 07:50 AM
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Default Why is T206 Museum quoted as the authority on T206 by major auction houses?

Many auction houses (Goodwin, REA, etc) have continued to rely on T206 museum as their primary source of T206 information - especially for back scarcity.

Given the shady at best (fraudelent? / criminal?) behavior by T206 museum's owner I find it very curious why these reputable auction houses continue to rely on this tainted source of information.

I personally believe that Jim R's T206 thread on rare backs is far more accurate (and probably less biased) than T206 museum's list.

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Old 05-13-2010, 10:20 AM
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I agree. Jim could do a web site and eventually his site could be the one quoted. T206 Museum has a nifty web site, but it doesn't make them experts.

Anybody can proclaim to be a self-professed expert in this hobby, whether or not their information is factual. Remember Alan Hagar?

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Old 05-13-2010, 10:25 AM
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Leon, if you run into Scott at the National.......buy him a beer in my name!!! He is spot-on!

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Until someone else steps up to the plate and provides better or more accessible information, that's where they will continue to go.
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Old 05-13-2010, 12:26 PM
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Google "T206" and t206museum.com is the second search result. Trae's site is first, but it doesn't have "articles" like t206museum.com does.
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Old 05-13-2010, 04:46 PM
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Old 05-13-2010, 05:36 PM
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Default Why is T206 Museum quoted as the authority on T206 by major auction houses?

One of many examples of BS from T206museum.com:

http://www.t206museum.com/page/periodical_81.html

"One of the great finds in the hobby almost walked unnoticed out the door of Orve Johansson's Largo, Fla., baseball card shop late last year. But because of the shop owner's concern for his customers, Johansson's now the owner of a rare, unopened package of 1910 Piedmont cigarettes. The pack's cellophane wrap still is intact, and the package contents remain hidden from the world."

The pack is 1930's. Cellophane wrap gives it away. I rather trust Alan Hagar than t206museum.com for info.
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Old 05-13-2010, 05:55 PM
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One of many examples of BS from T206museum.com:

http://www.t206museum.com/page/periodical_81.html

"One of the great finds in the hobby almost walked unnoticed out the door of Orve Johansson's Largo, Fla., baseball card shop late last year. But because of the shop owner's concern for his customers, Johansson's now the owner of a rare, unopened package of 1910 Piedmont cigarettes. The pack's cellophane wrap still is intact, and the package contents remain hidden from the world."

The pack is 1930's. Cellophane wrap gives it away. I rather trust Alan Hagar than t206museum.com for info.
That same article was in a Beckett when I was a kid. It planted the seed of interest in T206. I'm sad to hear that it was untrue.
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Actually the article in not entirely inaccurate. The pack does date to the 1911-17 period (can't be earlier as L&M is printed on the bottom, and that began 1911). Also, that's actually a glassine wrapping, not cellophane, so totally appropriate for the period. However, the pack will not hold a T206... wrong size configuration. Moreover, while I can't see the tax stamp, my guess would be it dates to more 1915 than 1911.
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Chan was such a bad story teller. The whole story just sounds bogus just like the Old Mill Double Bar story he made up for the creation cards he made.

A guy walks into a card shop with cards in a box from the 50's and has one 1910 Piedmont pack mixed in???

Sort of like a guy walking into a Comic Book shop with a pile of comics from the 1960's and a copy of the Declaration Of Independence mixed in...
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The entirety of the paragraph is confusing to me:


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I don't get it. Did he convince him to quit smoking before offering to purchase his last pack of cancer sticks from him?
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i bet those would be nice and fresh....

"But because of the shop owner's concern for his customers"

odd statement, so his customer has what he the card store thinks is a valuable pack, so he buys it out of concern??? Or out of the fact he thinks there may be a mint t206 in there and he knows how valuable that would be (yes i know he is wrong but i doubt he is an expert on which packs contain t206 cards)


i guess my ex that stole my collection was just looking out for my best interest as well, after all she needed that cocaine more then i needed the cards....
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Trae's site is first, but it doesn't have "articles" like t206museum.com does.
Working on a new version slowly but surely, and it will eventually include a sort of community publishing feature to allow for articles by those who care to contribute.
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"But because of the shop owner's concern for his customers..."
Typical drivel from Peter Chan - "personal safety" was his own reason for not revealing his name as the owner of t206museum.com. In fact, he tried to stay anonymous to avoid being exposed as a con artist. My single favorite N54 moment of the past 8 years was seeing him get brought out into the sunlight.


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Old 05-15-2010, 07:29 PM
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That article wasn't written by Chan, it was in a Beckett back in the 90s.
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That article wasn't written by Chan, it was in a Beckett back in the 90s.
Isn't there someone on the board who used to work at Beckett? Maybe he could shed some light on this.
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I am with you on that one. Probably my favorite also.

I am also sure Pat is still at it-with his site or wherever he can-he will con any one or any collector he can.
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That article wasn't written by Chan, it was in a Beckett back in the 90s.
Yes, I realized that. Because the thread is about Chan The Card Enhancer, I thought that Beckett article quote about "safety" was a point to get the subject back to him. He's earned a regular trashing here.


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My single favorite N54 moment of the past 8 years was seeing him get brought out into the sunlight.


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Really??? Better than Bruce threatening to sue himself if he didn't retract his statements?

That one was milk-spitting funny!


(Catching Chan was much better for the hobby, but not nearly as funny.)
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