Should MLB replace Cy Young awards with the "C. Mathewson" and "W. Johnson" awards?

[pherbener]

Originally Posted by Steve D

Well, MLB could do like the NHL where all the awards are known by a player's name (ie, the Hobey Baker Award for the ROY)



Steve

Steve, The NHL ROY is the Calder award. The Hobey Baker award is for college hockey's best player. BTW I'm always looking for Hobey items if anyone has any

That being said, I like the idea of the Matty and WaJo awards but it will never happen!

[steve B]

Originally Posted by pherbener

Steve, The NHL ROY is the Calder award. The Hobey Baker award is for college hockey's best player. BTW I'm always looking for Hobey items if anyone has any

That being said, I like the idea of the Matty and WaJo awards but it will never happen!

They named a sports award after a sculptor?



Used to go past one of his workshops pretty regularly as a kid, and some of the local towns had small lawn sculptures until they got expensive enough that people stole a couple, after that they all got sent to art auctions.

Steve B

[ZenPop]

...with the history of baseball, the idea of having an Andruw Jones award is kind of hilarious.

...and I think Willie Mays should be on more awards:

Best Pitcher - NL = Willie Mays
Best Pitcher - AL = Willie Mays
MVP - NL = Willie Mays
MVP - AL = Willie Mays
ROY - AL = Willie Mays
ROY - NL = Willie Mays

(kind of brings to mind... "At first base, Bugs Bunny. At second base Bugs Bunny. At third base, Bugs Bunny...")

[clydepepper]

IMHO there are already enough awards named after players. The 'age of specialization' lends itself to even more possibilities: Best set-up man; best seventh inning reliever; best OF performing in a platooned roll; etc. etc.

Statues are another thing - I'm not sure if Burger King has one in the works for me yet.

Too much celebrating for just performing whether as a player or an eater.

They have their piles of money and they can make their own statues - as Ivan Rodriguez has in his back yard (S.I. story).

[clydepepper]

Originally Posted by ZenPop

...with the history of baseball, the idea of having an Andruw Jones award is kind of hilarious.

...and I think Willie Mays should be on more awards:

Best Pitcher - NL = Willie Mays
Best Pitcher - AL = Willie Mays
MVP - NL = Willie Mays
MVP - AL = Willie Mays
ROY - AL = Willie Mays
ROY - NL = Willie Mays

(kind of brings to mind... "At first base, Bugs Bunny. At second base Bugs Bunny. At third base, Bugs Bunny...")

No- Who's on First, What's on second, and I don't know is on third

[bravos4evr]

with the history of baseball, the idea of having an Andruw Jones award is kind of hilarious.

well, he IS easily the greatest fielding CF'er of all time, it really isn't even close. every fielding statistic of any merit has him wayy ahead of everyone else

[ZenPop]

Originally Posted by bravos4evr

well, he IS easily the greatest fielding CF'er of all time, it really isn't even close. every fielding statistic of any merit has him wayy ahead of everyone else

I'd feel completely comfortable taking Mays over Jones in a purely defensive role.
People who watched him play speak of his incredible instincts to go with his out of this world physical talents... Obviously Jones was a great defensive player, but better than the guy who had to patrol the vast Polo Grounds and the horrors of Candlestick? I don't think so.

[bravos4evr]

Originally Posted by ZenPop

I'd feel completely comfortable taking Mays over Jones in a purely defensive role.
People who watched him play speak of his incredible instincts to go with his out of this world physical talents... Obviously Jones was a great defensive player, but better than the guy who had to patrol the vast Polo Grounds and the horrors of Candlestick? I don't think so.

in every single defensive statistic he beats Mays. Mays was a better hitter, and a better overall player, but AJ was easily the best defensive Cf'er f all time. He made catches on the trot that most guys had to dive for. His instincts off the bat were simply astounding as was his ability to track the ball as well as his arm.

Total Zone Runs career : AJ-220 Mays-176

Fangraphs DEF number: AJ- 281 Mays- 170


yeah, it's not really close