any vintage ticket experts??

[knoxcat1983]

need question answered on joe jackson ticket please.

[vthobby]

but.......it would help to maybe post a photo of the ticket in question and if you can't do that, then please just ask the question. That would help a bunch!

Peace, Mike

[vintagesportscollector]

The answer is 42.

[knoxcat1983]

sorry. offered a stub of game joe jackson played for cleveland before traded to white sox. just wanted general idea of value.

[Shoeless Moe]

does it have the year on it?

[knoxcat1983]

1915 game 62 cleveland

[smotan_02]

Originally Posted by vintagesportscollector

The answer is 42.

This is always my favorite smartass response. Not sure if everyone gets it, but well played.

[Scott Garner]

As the previous poster stated, please post a scan or good quality photo of the front and back of the ticket please & I will try to help.
Just curious why you believe that the ticket is from 1915?
Does it have the year written or printed on it?
Thanks!

[Rob D.]

A lot of prewar Cleveland tickets do not include enough information to positively assign a game from a particular year. Others contain enough info to pinpoint a game while taking only a small leap of faith. Yet others have ironclad proof.

Where yours falls will help dictate value. Also, many collectors call the small "coupons" from season-ticket booklets tickets, but other collectors consider them less desirable than full ticket stubs (those that would have been purchased by the public at the ticket office).

So, long story short, trying to determine a value starts with what style of ticket stub is being discussed. Posting an image will go a long way in your quest to receive accurate estimates on value.

[knoxcat1983]

i have seen it but do not own it. but have a chance to purchase. it sounds like may be a season ticket booklet coupon because it only has date of 1915 season with game #62 on the coupon. thanks for the input guys. i will try to get a scan i can post

[Rob D.]

Originally Posted by knoxcat1983

i have seen it but do not own it. but have a chance to purchase. it sounds like may be a season ticket booklet coupon because it only has date of 1915 season with game #62 on the coupon. thanks for the input guys. i will try to get a scan i can post

It's just my opinion, but having collected Cleveland Naps and Indians tickets for 40-plus years, I've always found the ticket-booklet coupons far less desirable than other ticket stubs from the era. I don't think I'm in the minority on this, so my advice would be to pay accordingly. Also, those coupons from Cleveland's 1915 season show up far more often than ones from any other season in that era.

This isn't mine, but my guess is this is what you're referring to:

[Shoeless Moe]

Pretty sure Joe was gone by that game, he left in early aug that year I believe and just guessing but that game would have been Sept......I think......too lazy to look it up, but you can : )

[vintagesportscollector]

Does it look anything like this?

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[knoxcat1983]

that is it!!! but game 62

[knoxcat1983]

what would be a fair price?

[Rob D.]

According to baseballreference.com, Cleveland's scheduled 62nd home game of the 1915 season was against Washington on Aug. 19. Here's the box score from that game:

http://www.baseball-reference.com/bo...91508190.shtml

Because I'm not a fan of the ticket coupons and am too biased, I'll pass on giving an estimated value.

[Scott Garner]

Knoxcat,
Thanks for supplying the photo of the ticket.
Rob D. is correct that the coupon style tickets are less desirable than their cardboard counterparts, but it is what it is.

Shoeless Joe did manage to get 3 hits in the game, but other than that I don't see anything particularly interesting that occurred in your 62nd game after looking at the boxscore.

I would place a value of $50- $75 for this ticket. I suspect that it would not bring a whole lot more, however many sellers certainly would try.

I hope this is somewhat helpful...

[knoxcat1983]

thanks to all for their input!!! very helpful

[Shoeless Moe]

Originally Posted by Rob D.

According to baseballreference.com, Cleveland's scheduled 62nd home game of the 1915 season was against Washington on Aug. 19. Here's the box score from that game:

http://www.baseball-reference.com/bo...91508190.shtml

Because I'm not a fan of the ticket coupons and am too biased, I'll pass on giving an estimated value.

Not trying to argue, but how do you count that date as game 62? Are you counting Doubleheaders as individual games, because those should those be counted as 1 rather than 2? I thought back in the day if you went to a DH your ticket was good for both games. I still believe that ticket for game 62 falls in September.

Anyone have an entire booklet?

[Rob D.]

From the "More Information Than You Want or Need Department," here's something I forgot I had. This is how the season-ticket coupons originally were issued. As you can see, there are a few coupons left in this booklet.

[Shoeless Moe]

That's pretty cool Rob!

After further review I'm saying it was the game on Aug 21, game 62.

They were 57-95 that year, 152 games, counting home game backward from 76 if they played half road half home it lands on 8/21. Joe was gone.

And Baseball Reference not sure if that shows Rain Outs, so with those undated ones I'm not sure you can ever be certain, unless you had a vintage schedule from that year, and then counted.

[Rob D.]

Was searching through a box today and came across this. Figured it's worth a post because you don't see two or more coupons attached (unless they're in a book) and the backs are rarely shown.

Edited to add: I just realized after posting that these two tickets are from the book I posted above (No. 326) -- as is the first example posted in this thread. That's funny, because the book and these two tickets came from two different sources, about 10 years apart.

[Rob D.]

One more "If a tree falls in a forest and no one is around to hear it ... " post.

Here's a similar coupon from a 1921 season-ticket booklet. This is a year you don't see often. I picked up this one, because as Game No. 1, it fills a hole in my Cleveland opening-day ticket stub collection.

[doug.goodman]

Originally Posted by Shoeless Moe

Not trying to argue, but how do you count that date as game 62? Are you counting Doubleheaders as individual games, because those should those be counted as 1 rather than 2? I thought back in the day if you went to a DH your ticket was good for both games. I still believe that ticket for game 62 falls in September.

Anyone have an entire booklet?

I think Paul might be right about this, and if so, according to my (possibly wrong) count, I think that game was on Sept 9 versus the Tigers. Cobb was 3-3 in that one giving him 1899 for his career (??), and Jackson didn't play.



That having all been said, I think Joe's answer of "42" is way funnier... I just watched that movie (again) a couple days ago.