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Old 07-15-2018, 07:48 AM
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Ted, I'm not claiming that the Ames AB460 exists I just think it's
inappropriate to single out t206resource as mis-informing collectors
about these cards when you had 4 out of 5 of these cards on your
lists before they did.

You also originally had Bergen (Catching), Murray (portrait), and Overall (blue sky) on your PD42 list.

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=114645

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Old 07-15-2018, 07:56 AM
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Old 07-15-2018, 10:02 AM
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Ted, I'm not claiming that the Ames AB460 exists I just think it's
inappropriate to single out t206resource as mis-informing collectors
about these cards when you had 4 out of 5 of these cards on your
lists before they did.

You also originally had Bergen (Catching), Murray (portrait), and Overall (blue sky) on your PD42 list.

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=114645

Pat

You are referring to surveys I conducted 9 years ago (see data below). We were still in the early stages on Net54 in receiving inputs from members of this forum.
The majority of these inputs were valid. Subsequently, a handful of these inputs proved to be incorrect. I was collecting 1000's of inputs from 2006 - 2010 for my
Net54 "FYI surveys" of the various T-brands of the T206 set.

Thanks to Scot Reader; and, guys like Craig Wright and Adam Goldenberg (who were putting together PIEDMONT 460, Factory #42 sub-sets) these errors in this
2009 survey were corrected. I try to give credit where credit is due.

Apparently, your T206Resource "buddies" copied my lists for their website. But, they never had the common courtesy to credit me (or other sources for this data).
Furthermore, when I corrected my data, they just ignored it.

Isn't it about time we let bygones be bygones ?


Note......Bergen (catching), Devore, Murray (portrait), Overall (blue sky) were subsequently proven incorrect inputs, and erased from this list.
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Reprising the "Lonely 12" subjects that have been confirmed with the Piedmont 460/42 back. Please check
the 36-card list posted here and see if you have any of them with this rare PIEDMONT back.

Bergen (catching)
Chase (Trophy)
Devore
Kleinow (Boston)
Latham
Merkle (throwing)
Murray (portrait)
Overall (blue sky)
Schaefer (Washington)
Seymour (portrait)
Smith (Boston & Chicago)
Wiltse (portrait-cap)

I refer to these 12 cards as the "lonely 12" because after years of tracking P460/42 backs, It looks like there
was a very limited printing of the P460/42 backs with respect to the 460-only series.


Here's the list of the remaining 36 cards in the 460-only series that have NOT been confirmed......

Abbaticchio (blue sleeves)
Ball (Cleveland)
Bell (follow thru)
Bescher (hands in air)
Bridwell (portrait-cap)
Camnitz (arms folded)
Camnitz (hands at side)
Chance (batting)
Crandall (portrait-cap)
Doyle (portrait)
Duffy
Ford
Frill
Gandil
Geyer
Herzog (Boston)
Howell (hands at waist)
Hummell
Lake (St Louis-ball)
Marquard (follow thru)
McGraw (portrait-cap)
McGraw (glove)
Meyers
Needham
Oldring (batting)
Payne
Pfeffer
Schlei (portrait)
Schlei (batting)
Schulte (back view)
Sheckard (glove)
Smith (Brooklyn)
Stovall (batting)
Tannehill (Chicago)
Tinker (bat on shoulder)
Wheat

Thanks for taking the time to check-out your T206's.

TED Z


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Old 07-15-2018, 10:32 AM
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You are referring to surveys I conducted 9 years ago (see data below). We were still in the early stages on Net54 in receiving inputs from members of this forum.
The majority of these inputs were valid. Subsequently, a handful of these inputs proved to be incorrect. I was collecting 1000's of inputs from 2006 - 2010 for my
Net54 "FYI surveys" of the various T-brands of the T206 set.

Thanks to Scot Reader; and, guys like Craig Wright and Adam Goldenberg (who were putting together PIEDMONT 460, Factory #42 sub-sets) these errors in this
2009 survey were corrected. I try to give credit where credit is due.

Apparently, your T206Resource "buddies" copied my lists for their website. But, they never had the common courtesy to credit me (or other sources for this data).
Furthermore, when I corrected my data, they just ignored it.

Isn't it about time we let bygones be bygones ?


Note......Bergen (catching), Devore, Murray (portrait), Overall (blue sky) were subsequently proven incorrect inputs, and erased from this list.




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Sure Ted but I don't think prove me right and them wrong or that they
supposedly copied your lists is letting bygones be bygones either.
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Old 07-17-2018, 04:28 PM
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Sure Ted but I don't think prove me right and them wrong or that they
supposedly copied your lists is letting bygones be bygones either.

"Supposedly copied"...... Pat, the odds of two separate (72-card) surveys having ONE error that is exactly identical on each survey is about 5,000 to 1.

But, here we have THREE identical errors coinciding on these two separate PIEDMONT 460/42 surveys. This increases the odds by orders of magnitude to
about a Million to 1.

Hey guy......there is no way that they independently "confirmed" these same three cards. They did indeed copy my PIEDMONT 460/42 survey from 2008.

And, if you still think that Bergen (catching), Murray (portrait), or Overall (blue sky) exist with PIEDMONT 460, Factory #42 backs.....then you can
search for these cards and I will reward you $500 for each legitimate one you find.


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Old 07-28-2018, 05:50 PM
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Default Once again....I'm offering a $500 reward (each) for AB 460 or UZIT T206 cards of Ames

Due to a sprained injury to my leg, I will not be able to attend the National next week.

My $500 reward(s) still stands....if you have (or find) the Ames card with either a UZIT
back, or an AMERICAN BEAUTY 460 back.

If so, don't hesitate to contact me.... tedzan11@comcast.net.

Have a great National. Hope to see you all in Chicago next year.


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