NonSports Forum

Net54baseball.com
Welcome to Net54baseball.com. These forums are devoted to both Pre- and Post- war baseball cards and vintage memorabilia, as well as other sports. There is a separate section for Buying, Selling and Trading - the B/S/T area!! If you give an opinion of a person or company your full name needs to be in your post. Contact the moderator at leon@net54baseball.com should you have any questions or concerns. Enjoy!
Net54baseball.com
Net54baseball.com
ebay GSB

Go Back   Net54baseball.com Forums > Net54baseball Main Forum - WWII & Older Baseball Cards > Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions

View Poll Results: Next Hot T206 Card
WaJo Portrait 47 29.19%
Young Portrait 24 14.91%
Mathewson Portrait 19 11.80%
Speaker 13 8.07%
Cobb Bat On 14 8.70%
Cobb Bat Off 21 13.04%
Other 23 14.29%
Voters: 161. You may not vote on this poll

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #21  
Old 08-14-2018, 02:33 PM
ruth_rookie's Avatar
ruth_rookie ruth_rookie is offline
Jason “the bambino” Babin
member
 
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Texas
Posts: 118
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bpm0014 View Post
I always felt that the Cobb Bat On was such an undervalued card. The pose, the smirk, the colors, etc.
I agree and voted this way before reading the thread. Glad to see someone feels the same way. Considering it has a similar overall pop as green portrait (from what I’ve read, anyway... never done the math) I think it’s overdue.
Reply With Quote
  #22  
Old 08-14-2018, 02:35 PM
Bpm0014's Avatar
Bpm0014 Bpm0014 is offline
Brendan Mullen
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Pittsburgh PA
Posts: 1,963
Default

No doubt!
Reply With Quote
  #23  
Old 08-14-2018, 03:15 PM
100backstroke 100backstroke is offline
Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 565
Default PSA pops

Looking at the PSA pop report, hard to believe the Matty portrait in PSA 5 has population of 49. The Cobb green portrait has listed pop in PSA 5 of 54.

The others: Johnson portrait in PSA 5 has pop 92, Young portrait in PSA 5 has pop 76, Cobb red portrait in PSA 5 has pop 185, the Speaker in PSA 5 has pop 98.

Any takes on the low Matty portrait numbers? Lower than Cobb green in PSA 5, Wow !
Reply With Quote
  #24  
Old 08-14-2018, 03:39 PM
MVSNYC MVSNYC is offline
Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 2,115
Default

I think another dimension to this, is when you introduce rare backs into the conversation. These days, they add tremendous value and desirability to the cards. I've been a T206 rare back collector for 25 years, and usually just focused on getting the different backs in commons only, figuring why pay a premium to have a HOFer on the front...well, I have to admit, that's one of my biggest mistakes in the hobby...I wish I had focused on getting HOFers with rare backs...I've done some catching up over the last few years, and have been inspired by Derek H and Ryan H (hi guys)...they were the smart ones!

Last edited by MVSNYC; 08-14-2018 at 05:08 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #25  
Old 08-14-2018, 04:09 PM
rats60's Avatar
rats60 rats60 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 1,374
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by 100backstroke View Post
Looking at the PSA pop report, hard to believe the Matty portrait in PSA 5 has population of 49. The Cobb green portrait has listed pop in PSA 5 of 54.

The others: Johnson portrait in PSA 5 has pop 92, Young portrait in PSA 5 has pop 76, Cobb red portrait in PSA 5 has pop 185, the Speaker in PSA 5 has pop 98.

Any takes on the low Matty portrait numbers? Lower than Cobb green in PSA 5, Wow !
There are more Mattys in PSA 6 than Cobb. If you total everything 5 & above, Cobb 101, Matty 120. Sounds like the Matty portrait might be a good pickup, but it won't have the demand of Cobb. Cobb is a tier above the other t206s (excluding Wagner).
Reply With Quote
  #26  
Old 08-14-2018, 04:19 PM
KMayUSA6060's Avatar
KMayUSA6060 KMayUSA6060 is offline
Kyle May
member
 
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: Northeast Ohio
Posts: 1,289
Default

Is it wrong to single out a specific card, versus targeting a tier of cards? Cobb has its own tier, with tier 2 being Young/WaJo. I'd put Speaker/Matty/Lajoie in tier 3. And so on.

If you see a rise in a certain card, figure out what other subjects are in its tier, and target them.
__________________
Faith. Family. Country. Baseball. Baseball Cards.

Current Project: Hall of Famers - 1 playing-days/involvement card (if possible) of each.
Progress: 150/323 (46.44%)

In-depth tracking here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing

Last edited by KMayUSA6060; 08-14-2018 at 04:20 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #27  
Old 08-14-2018, 04:24 PM
ruth_rookie's Avatar
ruth_rookie ruth_rookie is offline
Jason “the bambino” Babin
member
 
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Texas
Posts: 118
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by rats60 View Post
Sounds like the Matty portrait might be a good pickup, but it won't have the demand of Cobb.
Agreed. Eventually, as is true with every commodity, fundamentals take over. I’m not saying the Cobb green portrait is in a bubble. Not by any stretch. It could run another decade or longer...no one knows. But when you see similar overall pop numbers for green Cobb (831) to Matty portrait (856), I’m not sure how much longer the spread between the two can last before green Cobb decreases or Matty portrait increases. Or both. Then again, I said this five years ago to myself and the spread just keeps increasing. Shows you what I know... lol

Screw it. If you got the cash, just buy both and call it a day.
Reply With Quote
  #28  
Old 08-14-2018, 04:28 PM
Throttlesteer Throttlesteer is offline
Anson
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2018
Posts: 166
Default

I think it's worth keeping things in perspective too. Cobb has 4 cards in the set, WaJo has 2, Matty 3, and Speaker only 1 (his RC). Population reports may be an indicator, but prices don't necessarily reflect it. Also, it's more a function of demand and what's hot. Certainly errors or short prints will always have their mystique.

Lajoie Portrait certainly has made a pretty good move as of late too.
Reply With Quote
  #29  
Old 08-14-2018, 04:47 PM
ruth_rookie's Avatar
ruth_rookie ruth_rookie is offline
Jason “the bambino” Babin
member
 
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Texas
Posts: 118
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Throttlesteer View Post
Population reports may be an indicator, but prices don't necessarily reflect it. Also, it's more a function of demand and what's hot.
Very true. And the accuracy of the data. I have no idea how accurate those pop reports are. With all the crossovers, re-grades, etc., wouldn’t surprise me if they’re no longer a good reflection of supply.
Reply With Quote
  #30  
Old 08-14-2018, 05:29 PM
iwantitiwinit's Avatar
iwantitiwinit iwantitiwinit is offline
rob.ert int.rieri
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: NC
Posts: 1,450
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Throttlesteer View Post
I think it's worth keeping things in perspective too. Cobb has 4 cards in the set, WaJo has 2, Matty 3, and Speaker only 1 (his RC). Population reports may be an indicator, but prices don't necessarily reflect it. Also, it's more a function of demand and what's hot. Certainly errors or short prints will always have their mystique.

Lajoie Portrait certainly has made a pretty good move as of late too.
In my opinion it's the portraits. Wajo and Mathewson have great looking portraits and the yellow background make them pop even more. While Young has the green portrait in my opinion it is not as attractive a card as the Mathewson or Wajo.
Reply With Quote
Reply



Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Show your T206 card(s) that are more scarce than the JOE DOYLE NAT'L card tedzan Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions 201 06-10-2015 11:15 PM
That trimmed T206 Wagner card + "Hall" collection of T206 (PSA Graded) Fred Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions 2 10-12-2013 09:43 PM
T206 card with possible non-T206 ghost print Archive Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions 6 04-19-2006 07:03 PM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:20 AM.


ebay GSB