New Blog Post. BOND BREAD JACKIE ROBINSON!!!!

[Stonepony]

No I'm not debunking any myths. I'm just going by what pieces of the puzzle I've seen or read. No, I don't consider 13 metropolitan cities a nationwide distribution. Actually, I consider that small. My family and extended family is from KC ( as am I) and know one has heard of Bond Bread. That's neither here nor there, and my view is just an opinion which may be an incompletely educated one. My calling the set a " glorified regional" set was obviously a little over the top... which was my intent. I'm always ready to learn all I can in this hobby. Could you
tell me what myth I cited? Do you know the regions the portrait card was distributed? I thought it was only a very small distribution ( Brooklyn, Harlem and other NY areas)?

Originally Posted by Stonepony

No I'm not debunking any myths. I'm just going by what pieces of the puzzle I've seen or read. No, I don't consider 13 metropolitan cities a nationwide distribution. Actually, I consider that small. My family and extended family is from KC ( as am I) and know one has heard of Bond Bread. That's neither here nor there, and my view is just an opinion which may be an incompletely educated one. My calling the set a " glorified regional" set was obviously a little over the top... which was my intent. I'm always ready to learn all I can in this hobby. Could you
tell me what myth I cited? Do you know the regions the portrait card was distributed? I thought it was only a very small distribution ( Brooklyn, Harlem and other NY areas)?

Dave, I would suggest reading this thread.

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=171169

[Stonepony]

Originally Posted by Gobucsmagic74

Dave, I would suggest reading this thread.

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=171169

I remember that thread and reread it. The photos are no longer posted.
Although I applaud the research and photo dating... the thread doesn't bring me any closer to knowing where the cards were distributed... and for that matter exactly when. The window is certainly proven and precedes the 1948 leaf and Bowman issues almost certainly. The portrait card is described as a " promo card" by the researchers. There's a lot of " we believe", " may have been",
" we speculate " language in there. I'll never consider a promo card a true rookie card and for me the area of distribution is way to small. I'm standing by my opinion.. but great stuff!!! i just love the 49 Bowman too much to budge

[robertsmithnocure]

Originally Posted by Stonepony

The window is certainly proven and precedes the 1948 leaf and Bowman issues almost certainly.

Hasn’t it been accepted that the Leaf card was made in 1949?

[Baseball Rarities]

It is probably not a fair comparison, but it was not that long ago that Ruth's 1933 Goudey cards were worth more than his M101-5/4 cards.

[Stonepony]

Originally Posted by robertsmithnocure

Hasn’t it been accepted that the Leaf card was made in 1949?

Correct

[Exhibitman]

So who wants to trade my JR bread card for a JR Leaf?

Originally Posted by Exhibitman

So who wants to trade my JR bread card for a JR Leaf?

I have a JR Leaf in SGC 55, so that won't work. Are you interested in selling the BB

[CharleyBrown]

Likely depends on the collector. If it were a PSA1 for a PSA/SGC1 or a PSA2 for a PSA2, I would consider it. The BB card still has some catching up to do in the mid-higher grades, but there's no denying it has experienced an incredible jump in the past year. A PSA6 nearly eclipsed the $6k mark last night. I'm glad I got my PSA7 when I did. In hindsight, I wish I bought a few more.

Originally Posted by Exhibitman

So who wants to trade my JR bread card for a JR Leaf?

[CharleyBrown]

Dave,

I respect your opinion, but you are wrong on the distribution of the promo card being limited to Harlem and Brooklyn NYC.

The portrait has already passed the 49 Bowman in terms of price.

Newly surfaced photos now indicate that the 6 cards distributed in early 1948 all feature images from the game before opening day. Will update my original thread when possible. I do not want to out an auction for those bidding.

[CharleyBrown]

I also have first and second hand accounts from those who obtained the cards or family members. The we believes were early in my research. I used that term because I wanted to make sure I had confirmation before stating definitively. I am much further along in my research, and can say that this set's distribution spans far wider than NYC. I say that with 100% certainty.

Regarding the Leaf issue, I do believe that it is an iconic set, and I am proud to own both the Leaf card, as well as the entire BB set.

[Stonepony]

Hey Shaun,
I'm not challenging that the Bond set predates the Leaf and Bowman. Nor am I challenging it's popularity, status or value. It's a great card. However from my perspective, I don't consider an issue that was limited to less that 15 large Metroplitan areas a candidate for his true rookie card. Earliest card, ok.
Everyone else may disagree
I would like to see the evidence that the portrait was widely distributed. That's interesting.
PS- is everyone ready to get on board with the 54 Johnston cookies Aaron unseating the Topps issue as his true rookie?

[CharleyBrown]

Originally Posted by Stonepony

Hey Shaun,
I'm not challenging that the Bond set predates the Leaf and Bowman. Nor am I challenging it's popularity, status or value. It's a great card. However from my perspective, I don't consider an issue that was limited to less that 15 large Metroplitan areas a candidate for his true rookie card. Earliest card, ok.
Everyone else may disagree
I would like to see the evidence that the portrait was widely distributed. That's interesting.
PS- is everyone ready to get on board with the 54 Johnston cookies Aaron unseating the Topps issue as his true rookie?

Understandable, and you are entitled to your own beliefs. I respect that. I can't answer the Aaron question, as I do not know enough about the set.

Originally Posted by Stonepony

Hey Shaun,
I'm not challenging that the Bond set predates the Leaf and Bowman. Nor am I challenging it's popularity, status or value. It's a great card. However from my perspective, I don't consider an issue that was limited to less that 15 large Metroplitan areas a candidate for his true rookie card. Earliest card, ok.
Everyone else may disagree
I would like to see the evidence that the portrait was widely distributed. That's interesting.
PS- is everyone ready to get on board with the 54 Johnston cookies Aaron unseating the Topps issue as his true rookie?

No, because the Johnston Cookies is a straight-up, undeniable, regional issue and his Topps RC was produced the same year...rather than a year and a half later. Not sure why you'd use the term un-seat either? They're both 1954 issues.