Cards cracked from holders.Resubmitted

[Leon]

Grading by any company is a crapshoot at best ....

I bought 13 raw and trimmed cards at a National one time and 12 came back with numerical grades. It happens.

Originally Posted by frankbmd

I cracked and crossed 20 GAI cards. All received numerical grades.

[Stampsfan]

Originally Posted by Leon

Grading by any company is a crapshoot at best ....

I bought 13 raw and trimmed cards at a National one time and 12 came back with numerical grades. It happens.

This only happens to other people...

[Scocs]

What's KSA? Never heard of them or have ever seen one....

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Canadian company with a decent reputation. they exist mainly because of the crazy expense of sending expensive packages across national borders.

[HercDriver]

I won one of those "grab bag" sort of lots in an REA auction a few years back. It included a bunch of trimmed T207s, so I didn't even price them into my bid. I sent them in and got back 5s and 6s. Crazy...

[irv]

Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards

Canadian company with a decent reputation. they exist mainly because of the crazy expense of sending expensive packages across national borders.

At last years Toronto Spring Expo, BMW was there as soon as you walked in the front door.
He had a huge amount of cards for sale, including many high end 52 Topps cards all graded by KSA?

I found this odd, especially since they are from Wisconsin, but thought maybe sending them north was cheaper than sending somewhere in their own Country?

I also thought, if he/they do the T.O. show frequently, then maybe they have cards set aside specially for the Expo?

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards

Canadian company with a decent reputation. they exist mainly because of the crazy expense of sending expensive packages across national borders.

Never knew that was their MO.....

[irv]

Originally Posted by Leon

Never knew that was their MO.....

They have been around for quite some time so I am not sure if that is the only reason they are in business?

From the reading/research I have done, they are generally good at grading hockey but are lacking in their baseball skills.

Personally, I try to avoid purchasing KSA graded cards. Seeing cards slabbed by KSA and the grades they hand out, on vintage anyways, makes me uncomfortable.

Not sure how long they have been doing it, but some recent 52 Topps cards I seen graded by KSA, looked like they were graded by PSA as their logo was/is very close to what PSA's looks like.

[Stampsfan]

Originally Posted by irv

From the reading/research I have done, they are generally good at grading hockey but are lacking in their baseball skills.

This makes no sense. Do rounded corners, creases, and sizing appear different on hockey cards than baseball cards?

How are they on football cards? Do they struggle to see condition issues on football cards, but not on hockey cards?

[ty_cobb]

An interesting post but poses more questions than answers? The first poster states that he broke out the KSA holders on the chance of upgrading, which didnt go as expected, that BMW showed up to a Toronto show with a whackload of them anyway, (does that mean he gets good KSA grades so he doesnt even bother bringing his SGC stuff across the border? I don't know ,,,lol)

and then maybe the market has de-volved (not evolved) to the point where we are breaking out slabbed cards on the hope of getting 1 higher grade at the next grading service, but how lucrative can that be if its not a Hof'er? I dont know. I realize there were folks wanted to make a buck from buying raw to getting it graded.It s human nature.

Now its trying to get the 4 to a 4.5 'if' we change the holder.
Its the same card it was the day before it got entombed! Do you really want $200 commons in slabs that should be $50 or less. thats the question I would ask.