Interesting trivia about 1910 COUPON (T213-1) cards...show us some of these rare gems

[tedzan]

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To begin with, I fully understand that some of you on this forum do not associate the 68 cards of the 1910 Coupon (T213-1) set with the
T206 set. And, that's fine, that's your prerogative.

Nevertheless, from my study of the T213-1 set, this set provides some interesting insights into the printing of the T206 350-only series.
Circa Winter of 1909, American Lithographic (ALC) started designing the T206 cards for their 350-only series production.

For more information for those of you interested in this COUPON set, check-out this thread....FYI....1910 COUPON checklist (T213-1)

Let's start this analysis with the Major Leaguers in the T213-1 set. Depicted here is my hypothetical arrangement of these 48 subjects in the
T213-1 set, which were derived from an early press run of the 350-only series of the T206's. Here's my theory..coincident with the print run
of this group of T206's in the 350-only series (circa Spring/Summer 1910), American Litho (ALC) received requests for cards for ATC's new
tobacco brand COUPON. So, ALC printed up several extra sheets of these 48 cards and printed their backs with the COUPON advertisement.







ALC introduced the AMERICAN BEAUTY 350.....BROAD LEAF 350.....CYCLE 350.....DRUM 350 backs during the 350-only series press
runs (circa Summer 1910). Note that the T213-1 back is the same stylistic design as the A-B-C-D design. But, there is an incongruent
factor which suggests that the T213-1 timeline precedes the A-B-C-D print run. Byrne, Mowrey, and Rossman (due to trades) were not
printed with the T206 A-B-C-D backs. However, these 3 guys are included in the 48 card group of Major Leaguers in the T213-1 set.
This fact suggests that the T213-1 cards were most likely printed and issued in the Spring of 1910. Very, very interesting.





Hey guys....if any one here has a DRUM card of Mr. Chase please contact me. I will offer in cash (and/or trade) a generous amount
in order to complete this A-B-C-C-D sub-set.


ALC introduced the POLAR BEAR backs during the 350 series press runs (circa Summer 1910). But, only 9 of these 48 subjects in the
T213-1 set were printed with POLAR BEAR backs. These 9 guys include the six super-prints and Willett (these guys were continued in
to the 350/460 series). Plus, Engle and LaPorte (perhaps because they played for the NY Highlanders). It is apparent in the structure
of the T206 set that ALC favored players on New York teams (since this Lithographic firm was based in downtown Manhattan).


The T213-1 cards are probably the scarcest of all the white-bordered tobacco sets. But, if you have them, why not show them here.


TED Z

T206 Reference
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[ValKehl]

"The T213-1 cards are probably the scarcest of all the white-bordered tobacco sets."

Probably not, Ted. The pop reports suggest that each of these white-bordered sets is scarcer than the T213-1 set: T214 Victory, T215-1 Red Cross, T215-2 Red Cross, T216 Mino, and T216 Virginia Extra.

[DeanH3]

LOVE T213-1's. These treasures are so frail, it's no wonder that a PSA/SGC 4 is the highest graded to date.

Ted, how many of each example do you guesstimate exist?

[Sean]

Originally Posted by DeanH3

LOVE T213-1's. These treasures are so frail, it's no wonder that a PSA/SGC 4 is the highest graded to date.

Ted, how many of each example do you guesstimate exist?

Dean, I love that Mathewson.

[DeanH3]

Thank you Sean!

[Sean]

Ted, here's my only type-1:


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[Sean]

Originally Posted by ValKehl

"The T213-1 cards are probably the scarcest of all the white-bordered tobacco sets."

Probably not, Ted. The pop reports suggest that each of these white-bordered sets is scarcer than the T213-1 set: T214 Victory, T215-1 Red Cross, T215-2 Red Cross, T216 Mino, and T216 Virginia Extra.

Are we also including the T215 Pirate set?

[darwinbulldog]

Originally Posted by ValKehl

"The T213-1 cards are probably the scarcest of all the white-bordered tobacco sets."

Probably not, Ted. The pop reports suggest that each of these white-bordered sets is scarcer than the T213-1 set: T214 Victory, T215-1 Red Cross, T215-2 Red Cross, T216 Mino, and T216 Virginia Extra.

Maybe he just meant "White Borders" in the formal hobby sense, as the name of the set. 1992 Bowman has white borders, but buying them doesn't make you a White Border collector. Still, T215-1 is a fair point as I'd say they belong to the set as much as T213-1s do.

[Rhotchkiss]

Dean, that Matty is beast!

Here is my one and only T213-1. A huge thanks to Jobu for selling me this; and I got to meet Bryan in person in a DC hotel to do the swap.

[DeanH3]

Originally Posted by Rhotchkiss

Dean, that Matty is beast!

Here is my one and only T213-1. A huge thanks to Jobu for selling me this; and I got to meet Bryan in person in a DC hotel to do the swap.

Thanks Ryan. I bought it back in 2012 and I haven't seen another offered publicaly since. Population is still at total of 6 graded as well.

Your Evers is incredible. I love the colors on that pose.

[tedzan]

American Lithographic (ALC) printed 48 different Southern Leaguers (SL) in the T206 set......20 of which, represent the Southern Association.
ALC included these 20 guys in their printing of the T213-1 set.

One challenge you can try for is putting together a T213-1 SL same team sub-set.

Or, you can combine the T213-1 of your choice with its T206 counterparts to complete a back run. Anyway you play the game, you'll have fun







Southern Association checklist (20 subjects)

Bay........Nashville
Bernhard......Nashville
Breitenstein......New Orleans
Carey..........Memphis
Cranston......Memphis
Ellam.......Nashville
Fritz........New Orleans
Greminger.....Montgomery
Hart.........Montgomery
Hart......Little Rock
Hickman......Mobile
Jordan........Atlanta
Lentz.........Little Rock
Molesworth......Birmingham
Perdue.......Nashville
Persons......Montgomery
Reagan.......New Orleans
Rockenfeld......New Orleans
Smith........Atlanta
Thornton......Mobile








TED Z

T206 Reference
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[Pat R]

Ted, while the T213-1 cards are all major or southern leaguers there
are a number of confirmed two name T206 cards that are a major
and a minor league subject and some of the major league subjects
are T213-1 subjects so I don't think ALC used the same sheets for
the coupons.

this is a list of the confirmed two name cards with a minor and major
league subject.

Atz - Hoffman (Providence)
Butler - Raymond
Jackson - Hoffman (ST. Louis)
Livingstone - Maloney
McGinley - Speaker
Moran, Herbie - Arrelanes
Barbeau - Strang
Graham (ST. Louis) - Clark (Columbus)
McGlynn - Jones (Detroit)
Lennox - Clancy
Pickering - Myers

Here's a collage that Chris did of some of the two name cards.
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[tedzan]

I only know of only 2 complete T213-1 sets. It is virtually impossible to put together this complete (68-card) set. Nevertheless, if you enjoy a challenge, I recommend
putting together a sub-set of T213-1 cards. For example, here is my Six Super Prints sub-set......


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Note the paper loss spot on the back of the Chase (dark cap) card. Many of the T213-1 cards are found with a similar type of paper loss spot.

These COUPON cigarettes were packaged in cartons (11" x 3" x 2") labelled "COUPON" Cigarettes. My research indicates this paper loss is
due to some of the T213-1 cards having been pasted on these cartons.
No standard size cigarette packs of this new COUPON brand have been found. And, I do not think they exist. Perhaps, this is why ALC printed
these cards on a thinner stock of cardboard (these cards were not meant to serve as cigarette pack stiffeners).

TED Z

T206 Reference
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[buymycards]

Hi Ted,
Thank you for the excellent research. It is always interesting. I have to agree with you about the Type 1's being a part of the T206 set, and I also lean toward including the Type 1 T215's in with the T206's. Not that it really matters either way, because the designations will never change.

Rick

[tedzan]

Originally Posted by buymycards

Hi Ted,
Thank you for the excellent research. It is always interesting. I have to agree with you about the Type 1's being a part of the T206 set, and I also lean toward including the Type 1 T215's in with the T206's. Not that it really matters either way, because the designations will never change.

Rick

Hi Rick

Thanks......and, I agree with you regarding the 1910 COUPON....T215-1....T206 sets.


TED Z

T206 Reference
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