Fake T213-1 LaPorte on Ebay COMC - Daniel Desmond Card?

[Jobu]

There is a card up on Ebay right now that reminds me a lot of the fakes that Daniel Desmond made/sold several years ago:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/234720264453

Here are two of the threads about the Desmond fakes:

https://www.net54baseball.com/showth...hlight=desmond

https://www.net54baseball.com/showth...hlight=desmond

And in case the listing disappears, I am posting the scans.

I believe these were made by removing the backs from T206 and then reprinting the Coupon back. He made a bunch of T206 too, though I think the bad ones always had paper still affixed to the back.

[Leon]

Yes, a fraudulent Desmond special. Pretty darn good fakes except the ink on the back is newer ink, from the 1980s or so (I believe). That was the conclusive test Andy B. came up with. He now heads the CSG grading. He did a great job identifying these.
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[Pat R]

Good job outing this one Bryan, here's the T206 that was used to create it.

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[tiger8mush]

Great work guys!

[wazoo]

How do you guys feel about this one? I don’t like the corners and wear at all..

https://www.ebay.com/itm/23472024438...mis&media=COPY

[Jobu]

Nice find Pat! Thanks for posting that. What was the sale date of that card?

Waz - not sure about Helm. The T206 from Daniel I recall all had paper on the backs - likely to hide the fact that the paper was thinner from his back removal. The thin paper didn't need to be hidden for T213-1s as they are printed on thin paper.

[RCFire82]

Originally Posted by wazoo

How do you guys feel about this one? I don’t like the corners and wear at all..

https://www.ebay.com/itm/23472024438...mis&media=COPY

Glad you mentioned this one Josh. I was thinking the same thing with the lighter edge wear...

[Leon]

Originally Posted by wazoo

How do you guys feel about this one? I don’t like the corners and wear at all..

https://www.ebay.com/itm/23472024438...mis&media=COPY

Very much leaning towards fake on the Hindu. Look at the white protruding on the corners.
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[bigfanNY]

I wold not buy it.

[bigfanNY]

Originally Posted by Pat R

Good job outing this one Bryan, here's the T206 that was used to create it.

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Was the T206 a recent sale? I ask because if it was it seems to indicate that someone has recently taken up making fake Coupon type 1's.
Or was this a T206 known to have been purchased by desmond?
Jonathan

[Pat R]

Originally Posted by bigfanNY

Was the T206 a recent sale? I ask because if it was it seems to indicate that someone has recently taken up making fake Coupon type 1's.
Or was this a T206 known to have been purchased by desmond?
Jonathan

It was purchased in 2017 which is the same timeframe as the other Desmond fakes.

[bigfanNY]

Thanks Pat!

[Rich Klein]

Anytime you see a questionable card on COMC please let me know ASAP -- either by DM here or you can email me

Rich

[npa589]

Yea - I saw that one too and it instantly jumped out to me as a fake. When I looked at it more, I wondered if it was shellacked, and if so, sometimes where the shellac comes off, it reveals a preserved part of the card - making it look lighter - but still, I'd lean towards fake.

Originally Posted by wazoo

How do you guys feel about this one? I don’t like the corners and wear at all..

https://www.ebay.com/itm/23472024438...mis&media=COPY

[Jdrahota1]

Here is the eBay listing I just won. It is the exact card that is pictured. It is in authentication now. I also read that it was rejected by CSG.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/20451343997...mis&media=COPY