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Old 01-08-2014, 10:38 PM
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Hi to all. I am just getting into the card collecting world with genuine desire. I have dabbled in cards (mostly hockey) for a while, and just recently started cataloging what I have. This sparked an interested in "older stuff," which, I am thrilled to say, I bought my first pre-war baseball card. I am scared to death to find out if I was a true rookie rube or made a savvy purchase, and hope to pick your collective minds. So I posit this question: what would be a good price for a 1933 Goudey, slabbed as a PSA 8 (I know what most of you think of PSA's ability to grade a vintage card, I really have been trying to study before I bought)? I think you guys refer to it as a "common" card, I don't want to say what I paid it, I want to see what you all think a good price range for a card would be, a blind test so to speak. So just a basic idea, I know I have a lot to learn, and don't want to spend months over spending and have to learn the hard way. My eventual goal is to have a decent collection to leave my son, something we can share as he grows up. So, any advice is truly welcome. I will post the card I bought in a week, and you all can call me rookie or genius then! Thanks again, and I look forward to getting to know you all. Also, I am not in this to get valuable cards, just to collect what I think is cool. I just don't want to overspend if I don't have to.
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Old 01-09-2014, 03:08 AM
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Welcome to the forum, edjs.

The best way I can think of to answer your question about a common PSA 8 '33 Goudey is to refer to PSA's price guide:

http://www.psacard.com/SMRPriceGuide...?SMRSetID=1092

PSA breaks down the commons by card number in two ways:

Group 1: Cards # 1-40, 45-52
Group 2: Cards # 41-44, 53-240

Commons in the first group at PSA 8 are valued at $1,175.
Commons in the second group at PSA 8 are valued at $400.

These values reflect PSA's last update as of January 1, 2014

Please keep in mind that this is just a starting point, and the market could be noticeably higher or lower. To get a more accurate indication on where your particular card has been selling in a PSA 8, you would check cardtarget.com, or do a look up on VCP (vintagecardprices). VCP is a pay service, and card target is free. You can do a 24 hour membership to VCP for $3.99 (or maybe somebody here with a VCP membership could help you out).

https://www.vintagecardprices.com/register.php

If you give us the player name/card #, we can help you from there.
If you have any questions, please feel free to ask.

You'll find a lot of information, and some really great people here. If you want to learn about pre-war and vintage collecting, this is the place to be.

Have fun!

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Old 01-09-2014, 07:56 AM
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Welcome to the forum, edjs.

The best way I can think of to answer your question about a common PSA 8 '33 Goudey is to refer to PSA's price guide:

http://www.psacard.com/SMRPriceGuide...?SMRSetID=1092

PSA breaks down the commons by card number in two ways:

Group 1: Cards # 1-40, 45-52
Group 2: Cards # 41-44, 53-240

Commons in the first group at PSA 8 are valued at $1,175.
Commons in the second group at PSA 8 are valued at $400.

These values reflect PSA's last update as of January 1, 2014

Please keep in mind that this is just a starting point, and the market could be noticeably higher or lower. To get a more accurate indication on where your particular card has been selling in a PSA 8, you would check cardtarget.com, or do a look up on VCP (vintagecardprices). VCP is a pay service, and card target is free. You can do a 24 hour membership to VCP for $3.99 (or maybe somebody here with a VCP membership could help you out).

https://www.vintagecardprices.com/register.php

If you give us the player name/card #, we can help you from there.
If you have any questions, please feel free to ask.

You'll find a lot of information, and some really great people here. If you want to learn about pre-war and vintage collecting, this is the place to be.

Have fun!

Bill
Wow, that is the most amazing answer I could have got. I was expecting something more like "you should expect to pay between $200-$300 for that." But with your answer, I am already learning more! Teach a man to fish, thanks! The below is the pic from e-bay, I just bought it last night, and with that, this is what I got....
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Old 01-09-2014, 08:24 AM
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great looking card!!
welcome aboard!
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welcome aboard!
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...and an even better team choice!

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Old 01-10-2014, 03:53 AM
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Wow, that is the most amazing answer I could have got. I was expecting something more like "you should expect to pay between $200-$300 for that." But with your answer, I am already learning more! Teach a man to fish, thanks! The below is the pic from e-bay, I just bought it last night, and with that, this is what I got....
I'm happy that helped you!

Cardtarget.com is a really great resource. I check it whenever I'm in the market for a card. If you go card target's home page, and select price history in the upper left hand corner, you'll get a list of all the pre-war and vintage cards sets that are being tracked thus far (more are being added). Select 1933 R319 Goudey (R319 being the set's American Card Catalog, or (ACC) designation, per Jefferson Burdick), and you'll be taken to a checklist of all the cards in the set. If you click on the player's name, you'll next come to a page showing current auctions for that card. Click on sales history, a link you'll find on the upper right side of this page. Now you'll see a list of all examples of this particular card sold over the last few years. This will include Ebay sales, as well as several of the auction houses (Mile High, Goodwin, Robert Edwards, Legendary, Heritage, etc). At the top of this page, you'll see options to filter down the list. You can choose the TPG (third party grader. PSA, SGC, etc), then the grade for the card.

Here are the PSA8 cards that have been sold publicly going back to 2010:



Bear in mind that a MC (miscut) qualifier will somewhat affect the overall value of the card. How much depends on a number of factors, including card scarcity, demand, etc.

From a fellow lover of Goudey cards, you picked a really nice example for your first card. Congratulations.

Bill

PS-if you have any questions about what the American Card Catalog is, and how it helps organize the various pre-war and vintage card sets logically, please feel free to send me a private message. Wikipedia has a fairly good overview available here, but that really scratches the surface.
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I have my eye out for that very thing! I just got a 1909 Obak yesterday! Pre-wars are very addicting. Very much so.
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Old 01-10-2014, 09:40 PM
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I'm happy that helped you!

Cardtarget.com is a really great resource. I check it whenever I'm in the market for a card. If you go card target's home page, and select price history in the upper left hand corner, you'll get a list of all the pre-war and vintage cards sets that are being tracked thus far (more are being added). Select 1933 R319 Goudey (R319 being the set's American Card Catalog, or (ACC) designation, per Jefferson Burdick), and you'll be taken to a checklist of all the cards in the set. If you click on the player's name, you'll next come to a page showing current auctions for that card. Click on sales history, a link you'll find on the upper right side of this page. Now you'll see a list of all examples of this particular card sold over the last few years. This will include Ebay sales, as well as several of the auction houses (Mile High, Goodwin, Robert Edwards, Legendary, Heritage, etc). At the top of this page, you'll see options to filter down the list. You can choose the TPG (third party grader. PSA, SGC, etc), then the grade for the card.

Here are the PSA8 cards that have been sold publicly going back to 2010:



Bear in mind that a MC (miscut) qualifier will somewhat affect the overall value of the card. How much depends on a number of factors, including card scarcity, demand, etc.

From a fellow lover of Goudey cards, you picked a really nice example for your first card. Congratulations.

Bill

PS-if you have any questions about what the American Card Catalog is, and how it helps organize the various pre-war and vintage card sets logically, please feel free to send me a private message. Wikipedia has a fairly good overview available here, but that really scratches the surface.
Thank you so much. Everyone is so nice on this forum, and so much knowledge! I am really glad to be here.
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