Spend a little now.....make a ton later!

[Joshwesley]

Question that I posed in another thread.... As someone mentioned that a Baltimore news Ruth was bought for 6k at auction in 1991 and sold for 695k in 2015. Decent ROI lol..

What's the card now that can be bought for 6-10k now but will be worth 6 figures 25 years from now? Is there one, or has the real rare, very old stuff kind of topped out?

Just for fun, but I'm interested in hearing the speculation from the long time experts on the board......and everyone else!

Thanks,

[glchen]

Signed cards of Ruth, Cobb, Gehrig, Mathewson, Wojo, and other inner circle HOFers.

[T206Collector]

Originally Posted by glchen

Signed cards of Ruth, Cobb, Gehrig, Mathewson, Wojo, and other inner circle HOFers.

I certainly hope you're right about this! Though I've never seen an authentic signed Matty card. Does Mrs. Jane Mathewson count???

[ullmandds]

If it were only this easy!

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

if it were only this easy!

lol.

[Joshwesley]

Originally Posted by T206Collector

I certainly hope you're right about this! Though I've never seen an authentic signed Matty card. Does Mrs. Jane Mathewson count???

That's pretty awesome!

I agree about the auto's..... they might be the next large ROI 20 years down the line.

[BeanTown]

1980 Charlotte Os Police issued Orange Cal Ripken card. It doesn't get much better based on the numbers you gave to Invest right now and that card has the greatest upside!

Now, if you find a California league Old Judge player on EBay or a rinky dink auction for 6k, then jump all over that as well.

[MR RAREBACK]

leaf paige , and rare backs drum uzit lenox broad leaf carolina brights
agree with signed cards of ruth cobb gehrig mantle hornsby…

[Baseball Rarities]

Originally Posted by Joshwesley

As someone mentioned that a Baltimore news Ruth was bought for 6k at auction in 1991 and sold for 695k in 2015.

Just for the sake of accuracy, the Baltimore News Ruth sold in the 1991 Sotheby's Copeland sale for $18,700 and it is still in the same person's collection. FWIW, it is not graded either.

[Joshwesley]

Originally Posted by Baseball Rarities

Just for the sake of accuracy, the Baltimore News Ruth sold in the 1991 Sotheby's Copeland sale for $18,700 and it is still in the same person's collection. FWIW, it is not graded either.

Gotcha..
Thanks...I saw those numbers in another thread...I didnt know the actual deal/accuracy...


As cool as 206 cobbs are... There's just so many of them.
Folks new back then how special he was, so tons of those survived 100 years.
Although, the green Cobb is kind of pricey (I have no idea why....maybe it's more scarce?

Interesting about the rare backs... Lenox/Cb etc..

Have they risen in price the past 10 years or so to see a trend like that for the next 20 years? I'm new to the hobby.

[DeanH3]

As cool as 206 cobbs are... There's just so many of them.

You could say the same about the '52 Mantle, but that hasn't stopped it from huge escalations.

[Peter_Spaeth]

I have no idea. And neither does anyone else.

[pokerplyr80]

It would probably take another card like that to have a huge return, other than the obvious choices like the Gehrig exhibit rc. Some obscure set with a big name HOFer that no one pays attention to right now. There was probably one somewhere in that collection Leon just sold.

[Fred]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

I have no idea. And neither does anyone else.

That's about as accurate a prediction as one could expect.

[ALR-bishop]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

I have no idea. And neither does anyone else.

I think Peter really knows but just won't say

[ls7plus]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

I have no idea. And neither does anyone else.

Sure we have ideas, and the formula is well-known in any form of collectibles: rare and significant in the best condition you can find or afford. Just remember the focus of collecting changes over time in every field, and with it the demand. Q. David Bowers said that with coins (and baseball cards have basically followed coin collecting trends in every major respect--coins have just been around as an organized hobby 120 years longer), the items in fashion in one decade are seldom the same ones as in the next. You have to look for those that are rare and significant in areas that are at present relatively quiet. As I've said before, you want to think a bit outside the box and be on the cutting, rather than trailing edge, unless you've got really big bucks to spend. You're right, Pete, insofar as your post indicates that no one really knows for certain what items are going to explode in value, but using the tools noted above can immensely increase our chances of finding them. It just takes work, but if its your passion, its not work at all!

As to what you consider rare and significant, that is up to you, based on reading, study, research and analysis of both the game of baseball itself, its history, and cards. I have my own ideas as to what items are in for a sizable increase in value when focuses change over time, and frankly don't need the competition for cards that I believe will fall into that category. It was hard enough finally obtaining a 1939 R303A Ted Williams rookie, after being sniped several times with seven seconds or so left in ebay auctions--seems quite a few others were thinking along that line too! Frankly, I was somewhat amazed that I didn't have to pay more for the '39 V351 Williams rookie in the fall PWCC auction, based on my guidelines (I got it for less than half my max bid).

Just my two cents worth,

Larry

[veleno45]

I stocked up on loads of Earl Cunningham rookies about 25 years ago. I am pretty sure I will be banking those soon.

[robw1959]

Surprisingly, so far nobody has specifically alluded to the T206 error back craze that has sprung up over the last several years. If that one sticks around, I believe the other types of cards of that same era with misprinted ads on back will similarly find traction in the future. There are fewer of them available than the T206 errors, but still enough around to create some serious demand.

[4815162342]

Originally Posted by robw1959

Surprisingly, so far nobody has specifically alluded to the T206 error back craze that has sprung up over the last several years. If that one sticks around, I believe the other types of cards of that same era with misprinted ads on back will similarly find traction in the future. There are fewer of them available than the T206 errors, but still enough around to create some serious demand.

Adam mentioned it 5 posts above yours. I think that craze has fizzled out somewhat.

[T206Collector]

Originally Posted by 4815162342

I think that craze has fizzled out somewhat.

+1

I am always skeptical of phenomena that are unique to T206 collecting.

[jason.1969]

Stretching the time horizon from the OP a bit, I think 100 years from now Jackie Robinson will be THE GUY whose accomplishments have neither been forgotten nor written off as relics of a totally different game. Hard to pinpoint a specific card so maybe a game worn jersey.

Of course by then, counterfeiting technology and time travel will be so good that the whole collectibles market will be ruined.

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[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

Buy silver. It's at $13.80 an ounce right now...

$19.89 today. Up 44% from my original post just 6 months ago.

Anybody else's suggestions in this thread up 44%?

[sam majors]

I'm still very strong on POGS!!!

[BBB]

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

$19.89 today. Up 44% from my original post just 6 months ago.



Anybody else's suggestions in this thread up 44%?

I almost jumped on silver when it was languishing in the $14 range. Problem is there is a load of it out there that can be mined the moment the price goes up. There's no scarcity to the supply to make it predictable . I have a few friends that went long on silver back in the day and learned this lesson the hard way.

[Cmount76]

I actually took this advice when silver was $11.00 an ounce. I haven't checked it in a while, but am glad I put a few bucks into it. Thanks David!!!

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

$19.89 today. Up 44% from my original post just 6 months ago.

Anybody else's suggestions in this thread up 44%?

[iwantitiwinit]

In my opinion, the future price of silver is a difficult thing to predict and many factors play into its pricing. Somewhat interesting talking about recent move:

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articl...-moving-prices

[ValKehl]

David, I believe that an investor would done even better by buying high grade Mantles, Clementes, Koufaxes, etc. six months ago!
Val

[Billy5858]

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

$19.89 today. Up 44% from my original post just 6 months ago.

Anybody else's suggestions in this thread up 44%?

Pretty much a Brexit thing.....unexpected??

[Exhibitman]

Originally Posted by jason.1969

Stretching the time horizon from the OP a bit, I think 100 years from now Jackie Robinson will be THE GUY whose accomplishments have neither been forgotten nor written off as relics of a totally different game. Hard to pinpoint a specific card so maybe a game worn jersey.

Of course by then, counterfeiting technology and time travel will be so good that the whole collectibles market will be ruined.

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I don't think I'm going to make 151 and my daughter is not going to keep my collection, so a 100 year time line is not too relevant to me. FWIW, though, I think Babe Ruth will outlive all the rest in terms of long term recognition.