Is there a more undervalued card in vintage?

[Leon]

Originally Posted by packs

After all, the 52 Topps Mantle is a second year card too.

But his rookie Topps card....

I am going with Heilmann being underrated..

[lowpopper]

molitor-trammell 78 most undervalued card comparative to price

2 HOF on 1 rookie card

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Originally Posted by lowpopper

molitor-trammell 78 most undervalued card comparative to price

2 HOF on 1 rookie card

Always liked the 78 Murphy/Parrish/Diaz/Whitt Card even though it's not Murph's rookie. How many rookie cards have 4 future all-stars on them?

[Huysmans]

Originally Posted by packs

After all, the 52 Topps Mantle is a second year card too.

Comparing a '55 Topps Aaron to the '52 Topps Mantle as both just second year cards is comical.

[G1911]

The 1957 Frank Robinson has always seemed undervalued relative to other HOF rookies in high-printed series.

I know the obsession is with rookies, but I always think cards of good/great players in their iconic seasons are usually underpriced, like a 1968 Bob Gibson. That's cooler to me than a 1959 when he was just an afterthought in the high series.

Pre-War, guys who just barely missed the hall tend to be underpriced (Dahlen seems to be treated as a low-end HOFer now, though). Eddie Collins is underpriced, I tend to think John McGraw usually is too.

[packs]

Originally Posted by Huysmans

Comparing a '55 Topps Aaron to the '52 Topps Mantle as both just second year cards is comical.

That's usually what you shoot for when you make a joke.

[Huysmans]

Originally Posted by packs

That's usually what you shoot for when you make a joke.

You need a sense of humour to be funny.

[RCMcKenzie]

My younger brother and I used to trade cards a lot. He had a Murphy/Parrish rookie and I used to say, "What can you do for the Bo Diaz, rook?"

I always thought it was funnier than he did. I never was able to make a deal for that card, although after college he dropped off his collection for me to keep for him, so I have a Diaz rookie in a box somewhere.

[packs]

The 38 Goudey Feller is one I think could be undervalued.

[conor912]

Originally Posted by G1911

I know the obsession is with rookies, but I always think cards of good/great players in their iconic seasons are usually underpriced, like a 1968 Bob Gibson. That's cooler to me than a 1959 when he was just an afterthought in the high series.

I’ve always wondered this. Maris is a perfect example.

[phikappapsi]

thanks to this damn thread I've added an '86 Rice to an otherwise almost entirely pre-war/baseball collection.

[conor912]

Originally Posted by phikappapsi

thanks to this damn thread I've added an '86 Rice to an otherwise almost entirely pre-war/baseball collection.

Hahaha. Awesome. Why stop there? Do the whole ‘86 Sox team. I love little projects like that. They’re fun, cheap, and keep my occupied in collecting while saving/waiting for bigger fish....

[toledo_mudhen]

Originally Posted by phikappapsi

thanks to this damn thread I've added an '86 Rice to an otherwise almost entirely pre-war/baseball collection.

What did you get and what was the price (if not too personal) - I seem to find myself also glued to the 86 Rice listings...

[phikappapsi]

Originally Posted by toledo_mudhen

What did you get and what was the price (if not too personal) - I seem to find myself also glued to the 86 Rice listings...

Paid 565 for a Beckett 9 that looked real sharp. Seeing the Steve Young 10 go for what. $20k this week, made that feel ultra reasonable

[jchcollins]

I will agree that for his prominence in the 1980's hobby and earlier, Stan Musial has all but fallen off the map today. Frank Robinson to my knowledge has always been undervalued. In terms of pitchers and the esteem they were once held in - Steve Carlton cards besides his rookie are dirt cheap. And even the '65 in midgrade is only around $100. Just saying, Steve Carlton has 4 Cy Young Awards, Nolan Ryan has none...

[Wanaselja]

I got blown out of the water last night bidding on a nice Robinson PSA 7. It went for $961.

[Touch'EmAll]

Fergie Jenkins had 5 season in top 3 Cy Young voting. I haven't looked at his card values, but bet darn cheap.

[jchcollins]

Originally Posted by 100backstroke

Fergie Jenkins had 5 season in top 3 Cy Young voting. I haven't looked at his card values, but bet darn cheap.

Yeah he has "Cub that's not Ernie Banks" syndrome, which also affects Billy Williams and Ron Santo. His RC in nice shape is maybe a $50 card.

[Leon]

Getting back to pre war I still think REAL Fro Joys are a great buy. That said, I think I am in the minority.

[Kutcher55]

Funny, I saw the topic and before I clicked I guessed it was a Frank Robinson Rookie. Even more weird, I just got a 5 in this card nicely centered as well. It has gone up a ton in the past few months. In addition to his stellar playing career he was the first African American Manager in MLB history. For a long time, this card was cheaper pound for pound than the 57 Mays or Aaron, but that's no longer the case. I think it has room for further growth.

[packs]

I think the future will be kinder to him as people who had interactions with him pass. He was notorious for being horrible to be around if you were a fan.

[ValKehl]

[QUOTE=Leon;1993111]Getting back to pre war I still think REAL Fro Joys are a great buy. That said, I think I am in the minority.QUOTE]

Leon, I agree with you. And, ditto for the George Ruth Candy cards.

[Wanaselja]

Originally Posted by packs

I think the future will be kinder to him as people who had interactions with him pass. He was notorious for being horrible to be around if you were a fan.

I agree. I can't speak to how the older generation sees him but I'm 42 and when I was growing up it was:

Aaron 755
Ruth 714
Mays 660
Robinson 586

As a kid those were the GOATs (along with Ted Williams) to me. I think this new crop of collectors has a very different view of Robinson. Top 25 in WAR, MVP in each league, triple crown, first black manager. That's a helluva resume.

[gawaintheknight]

Jeez, you guys talk about Frank Robinson like he was Milt Pappas or something.

[Wanaselja]

Originally Posted by gawaintheknight

Jeez, you guys talk about Frank Robinson like he was Milt Pappas or something.

Hahaha fair point.

[Mike D.]

I like any card that tells me ice cream cones are good for me and that I should have one every day.

[slidekellyslide]

Warren Spahn won 363 games and his rookie can be had for $300 in mid grade and ~$1000 in high grade.

[icollectDCsports]

Originally Posted by slidekellyslide

Warren Spahn won 363 games and his rookie can be had for $300 in mid grade and ~$1000 in high grade.

Definitely one of the most underappreciated players of that era.

[G1911]

In addition to those mentioned and keeping to pre-war, I think Lefty Grove is generally undervalued. He's a top 3 pitcher all-time, I think. Hubbell is a little cheap too. I think pitchers tend to be more likely to be undervalued, and that Hubbell and Grove's stats are not eye-popping until you compare to the context in which those numbers happened has limited their appeal.

[leaflover]

By far Larry Doby is the most undervalued-underrated player in the hobby.
The American League's first negro gets no respect! PSA "pop report" for 1948-49 Leafs show a mere 139 examples graded compared to Robinson's 1,344.
Yet there is a hugh price differential in Robinson's favor.

[BleedinBlue]

Larry Doby and Buzz Aldrin are both great examples demonstrating the huge difference between being first and being second.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by leaflover

By far Larry Doby is the most undervalued-underrated player in the hobby.
The American League's first negro gets no respect! PSA "pop report" for 1948-49 Leafs show a mere 139 examples graded compared to Robinson's 1,344.
Yet there is a hugh price differential in Robinson's favor.

Great looking card. As was said, number 2 doesn't get the accolades....