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Old 11-17-2017, 09:48 PM
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T212 uncut sheet from 1911 - discussed on Net54 back in 2010, auctioned by H&S that fall (image from H&S).

Note the bottom row in the image - runs horizontal, the rest are vertical.


My interest is that T207 was likely printed via the same process (cards running both horizontally and vertically) as evidenced by an Adams card (shown previously) as well as the example from REA a few weeks ago that has parts of 5 different backs showing (image from auction).
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Old 11-18-2017, 09:02 PM
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Default Let's see some uncut sheets....any sheet from 1887 - 1967

When Bowman introduced their first BB card set after WWII, they continued using their "PLAY BALL" Trademark on their wax-pack wrapper.


1948 Bowman 1-cent wrapper
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The printing of the 1948 BOWMAN set is very interesting.....the printer took their 36-card production sheet and produced a 48-card set. In their 1st press runs
they printed cards #1 - 36. Then, in their later press runs they modified their printing plates by replacing 12 cards in the first group of 36 with cards #37 - 48.

The 36-card uncut sheet shown here represents the later press runs. Cards #37 - 48 are interspersed among the lower number cards. Therefore, this process
created Double-Prints of 24 low numbers....Single-Prints of 12 low numbers....and, another set of Single-Prints of the 12 high numbers.


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'64 Topps Giants, debunking the myth of short prints that was already pretty obvious to anyone that collected this set from vending packs
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I just want to point out that the 7 "Short Prints" are all in a row on the left side of this sheet and I wonder, as with many other Topps issues of that time is there a 2nd sheet which would confirm the long-held suspicions of those 7 short prints.

I will also state as a collector/dealer who worked on those sets, those 7 cards tended to show up on most want lists and were far easier to sell.

Also -- I know someone in the DFW area who accumulated a couple hundred (I did not count) of the Mantle and I would certainly call Mantle a Double or even a Triple Print

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T212 uncut sheet from 1911 - discussed on Net54 back in 2010, auctioned by H&S that fall (image from H&S).

Note the bottom row in the image - runs horizontal, the rest are vertical.


My interest is that T207 was likely printed via the same process (cards running both horizontally and vertically) as evidenced by an Adams card (shown previously) as well as the example from REA a few weeks ago that has parts of 5 different backs showing (image from auction).
Great sheet, Mike. Thanks for adding in the T207 examples as well...nice evidence.

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I wish I had a cool uncut sheet to share, but I don’t. Neat stuff gents.
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Super cool stuff!
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Does this count? Not a sheet but a box lid. And sorry it's from 1955.
Very cool. Don't remember seeing a box like that. Thanks to all who have shared??
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From the end of the range







And one year outside range. 1968 prototypes for 69 issue. Only one of them actually used. Different color autos



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T212 uncut sheet from 1911 - discussed on Net54 back in 2010, auctioned by H&S that fall (image from H&S).

Note the bottom row in the image - runs horizontal, the rest are vertical.


My interest is that T207 was likely printed via the same process (cards running both horizontally and vertically) as evidenced by an Adams card (shown previously) as well as the example from REA a few weeks ago that has parts of 5 different backs showing (image from auction).

Great post, Mike

Thanks for sharing this with us.


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And one year outside range. 1968 prototypes for 69 issue. Only one of them actually used. Different color autos





Some great stuff here, Al

Thanks for posting it.



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