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Old 04-21-2018, 06:54 AM
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A $300 winning bid magically becomes a $411 purchase.

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Old 04-21-2018, 06:56 AM
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You've got to factor in all the upcharges/buyers premiums with the big boys!

My $1300 winning bid resulted in a bill of almost $1600. I feel your pain...but I was expecting it.

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Old 04-21-2018, 07:05 AM
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Bid + 20% fee + $20 mail + NY Tax.
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Old 04-21-2018, 07:09 AM
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Bid + 20% fee + $20 mail + NY Tax.
Too difficult for some people to understand.
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Old 04-21-2018, 07:18 AM
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So having to pay a buyer's premium, sales tax, and shipping, which are all clearly explained in the auction rules, is equivalent to being violently sexually assaulted?

Ok, got it.
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Old 04-21-2018, 07:27 AM
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Could not disagree more. Heritage is perhaps the most transparent AH in terms of cost. Not only do you get the buyers premium in a parenthetical when you bid, there is a shipping calculator in each listing. My invoice was $0.04 different than the calculated price I knew before I bid.
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Old 04-21-2018, 07:41 AM
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I agree with Adam. Heritage is one of THE MOST transparent of all the auction houses. You may not like the fees, but everything is explained to you. I have no problems with them.

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Old 04-21-2018, 07:45 AM
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A $300 winning bid magically becomes a $411 purchase.

Never again.

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I'm not sure what I'm offended by more....your insensitivity to sexual assault or your inability to solve a simple math equation.
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Old 04-21-2018, 07:59 AM
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Your bid was 360 not 300.
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Thread title could be changed to savaged by baseball chat board
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Old 04-21-2018, 02:01 PM
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Don't forget the California Sales Tax. Heritage has a field office in Beverly Hills.
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Heritage is clear what their buyers premium will be, they have a freight calculator and charge tax. To me their auctions are super clear . It does feel at times that their realized prices are quite high. It makes me think they would be a good auction house to consign to

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Your bid was 360 not 300.
And boom goes the dynamite.
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This thread has inspired me. I am refusing to buy my lot since they hit me with sales tax. Once I saw the total amount I realized I didn't really want it, anyway.

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I understand being frustrated, but the title really needs to be changed IMO.

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I'm not sure what I'm offended by more....your insensitivity to sexual assault or your inability to solve a simple math equation.
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Rape? Really? It was more like unsatisfying consensual sex. They told you what you would be getting, but you were so excited to be getting any, you didn't listen!
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I got caught off guard by the sales tax and a little by shipping.
Went from having what I thought was a good deal by a few hundred to having to hang my head by a few hundred.

For anyone from California my invoice shows:

Winning Bid price + 30.12% = out the door price.

I don't think I would change much of anything (maybe buy 1 less card since I could get it at similar prices anytime/anywhere?) but it was a mild shock.

I'll be back next year with Bid + 30.12% in mind.
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Old 04-21-2018, 09:23 AM
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New here so unsure of forum etiquette between double posts and edits.

Sports Heritage (presumably all online auctions) are able to show bid + buyers premium. It is also common practice to enter billing address, and invoices always end up showing sales tax and shipping.

I wonder what the backend programming would take to visually show:

Your bid = x, Buyers Premium = y, Out the door estimate = y + shipping + known sales tax from user information.

That would undoubtedly prevent scores of people trying to get out of paying their auction.
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Old 04-21-2018, 09:25 AM
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The sales tax is admittedly a big kick to a lot of folks. They have no choice but to collect it. It is Uncle Sam it ain't Heritage, per se'. I bought one lot last night and am not outraged. It was a bid under my max bid too!! Living near Dallas I just figure in the extra bid sales tax in my strategy. It was still a good deal imo....

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I got caught off guard by the sales tax and a little by shipping.
Went from having what I thought was a good deal by a few hundred to having to hang my head by a few hundred.

For anyone from California my invoice shows:

Winning Bid price + 30.12% = out the door price.

I don't think I would change much of anything (maybe buy 1 less card since I could get it at similar prices anytime/anywhere?) but it was a mild shock.

I'll be back next year with Bid + 30.12% in mind.
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I didn’t win any lots in this auction. I always factor in sales tax, which is why I would bid stronger in some auctions compared to others. I would generally bid 10% more in non CA auction houses, except HA which Charges tax regardless of resident state.

+1 Title needs to be changed.

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Old 04-21-2018, 09:35 AM
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In what states do they add sales tax? Is it only CA, FL, IL, NY & TX?
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Old 04-21-2018, 09:53 AM
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In what states do they add sales tax? Is it only CA, FL, IL, NY & TX?
NJ now too. Between LOTG, REA, Golden, those of us in Jersey sure get hit a bit.

As a side note, I personally, really don't like the terminology "charges sales tax". Businesses collect sales tax. As Leon sales, it is the government that charges sales tax, not the AH. I'm sure all AH would love to not worry about collecting it just as much everyone would love not to pay it.
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In what states do they add sales tax? Is it only CA, FL, IL, NY & TX?
For several Heritage Auctions, I was outraged that my winning bids were somehow subject to Fl tax. My thinking was that if the point of sale was Texas, why poor me in the Sunshine State had to endure another 6.5% on already expensive items. It wasn't until I went over to their office here in Palm Beach, saw it was a lot more than a PO box and quietly kicked a few tires realized it was all legit. If you can't bear it, don't bid.
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In what states do they add sales tax? Is it only CA, FL, IL, NY & TX?
add CT to the list! Turns out I'm not a scofflaw after all
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