Like Sands in the Hourglass, So are the Days of Our Lives (on Net54baseball)

[Leon]

I just received this PM and thought I would share it and my response...
LL


Hi Leon,

I just wanted to express some frustration in the negativity of some of the board lately and give my support if you do plan on cleaning up some of the threads if possible.

It's sad that many fun ideas that draw interest and excitement for current and future members are being dissected with some conspiracy twist and the threads ruined.

I don't know Stephen at all, but he seems like an excited new member like xxx. The two of them don't know much but are learning and account for 10% of the board posts. I don't think I need to squash that excitement and pish posh them like some know-it-all. What became of Stephens trade thread is sad. If I was a prospective member I would move right on looking at that crap.

Also this absolutely insane response to the 52 set break is nuts. Set and box breaks are a great addition to card blogs and to have a couple members scaring off future advertisers and member breaks is a severe detriment to the board and its growth.

I just wanted to express my support for you as I can read your frustration. I am not upset in any way with you, I just do not normally voice my disdain because life has important things, but some people seem to be getting out of hand.

My response-

Hey ----
Thanks for the PM. My frustration "boilith" over too...There is a fine line between censoring and keeping everything on track. I try not to censor anything at all. I try not to ban anyone at all. I communicated with Stephen about starting a new thread and locking that old one.....but that too could be seen as censoring. Then also I am, and always have been, of the mind that people should be able to say what they want to so we get to know them. If they are jackasses on the board then they probably are in life too..If they aren't allowed to be jackasses we wouldn't know the real them...I am all ears on perfect solutions. I appreciate the support too.. ...LL



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[T206Collector]

Sounds right to me! Onward and upward...

[bobbyw8469]

This board is the best. Hands down. And it's not even close.

[ZenPop]

That note to you, Leon, speaks for me, as well.

If nobody is getting hurt by these things that generate excitement and hope, STOP with the dream-crushing and the negativity.

When I enter a set break, it's the closest I'll ever come to traveling back in time and tearing open a pack of '52 Topps (or '51 Bowman, or '41 Playball, or '33 Goudey). YES. I admit it. I'm hoping to score a dream card... JUST LIKE I HOPED FOR when I was a kid opening up a pack of '71 Topps and hoping for a Willie Mays or Bobby Bonds.

When I watch a member OPENLY say he'd like to trade cards to eventually acquire a '52 Mantle... I root for the guy... because I REMEMBER trading cards as a kid to try to get my Mays or Bonds card.

We're all collecting cards... some for money... but most, I think, for the joy of returning to our youths, when (we believed) baseball was a pure love and innocence. Stop inserting YOUR cynical thinking into the joy others take from watching these things take place. They're not hurting people.... but you might be ruining the enjoyment most of us feel about collecting our cardboard treasures.

I'm cynical about enough stuff in the "real world" these days... I don't need more of that spreading into otherwise enjoyable pursuits. Thanks for listening.

[Snapolit1]

Well, I haven't chimed in on the set break at least . . . .

Something about the premise of the trade up thing just irked me from the git go. Help me get wealthy by trading people less for what they give me in return. I know these things have become major media stories over the years.

The proper response to a thread you don't like is to ignore it and not post douchey comments. I will heed that going forward.

[Huysmans]

I agree with Steve.

Someone constantly asking for more than they're willing to give (both monetarily and regarding knowledge/information) can be irritating, but then again, that's just my opinion.
I also think there should always be an avenue for people to voice their feelings, whether or not they're in agreement with the general theme of the OP, if not, we're left with nothing but a bunch of yes men constantly shaking their heads in agreement, with no real exchange of differing opinions or ideas....

With all that said, it should be done in a respectful manner, something I'll take to heart for future correspondence, as this has been a learning experience.
In closing, I have no ill will towards Stephen despite not agreeing with him, and I wish him the best in his future pursuits.

Next time, I'll probably just keep my mouth shut 😎

[drcy]

Missed the trading up thread, but trading to get the cards or card you want is as old as trading cards. I remember as a little kid trading to get a coveted Hank Aaron.

[Zach Wheat]

Originally Posted by Leon

There is a fine line between censoring and keeping everything on track. I try not to censor anything at all. I try not to ban anyone at all. I communicated with Stephen about starting a new thread and locking that old one.....but that too could be seen as censoring. Then also I am, and always have been, of the mind that people should be able to say what they want to so we get to know them. If they are jackasses on the board then they probably are in life too..If they aren't allowed to be jackasses we wouldn't know the real them...I am all ears on perfect solutions. I appreciate the support too.. ...LL

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In the early days of Net 54 - well prior to Leon - there was quite a bit more angst on the board, in my opinion. It has become a much more enjoyable place since then.....

Z

[irishdenny]

This is just my straight forward Sum What fact event opinion!

When a new crew member comes aboard
& starts playin wit the operatin systems,
The Salty Member's get a bit Uneasy.

ie...

1st Post - How do You Do my Name is 'So & So!?"
Next 50 Posts - "I'm here ta Learn, Please teach me about Pre War!"

Then the Real Drama Begins...

New crew member Says:
"Sum one Sent me a Rude PM, - That's it, "I'm Shippin Out!"

Other's who haven't been around long enough ta see sum of the craziness
that sum New Crew Members had to offer Reply wit;

"Please stay... Don't let one knucklehead ruin your hobby!"

~ So Far this makes good sense ta me, Truly!!! ~

Howevar, a Day or 2 later...

The New Member now takes a new approach ta his new found Stardum
& Decides that this is a Grand time ta initiate his "Trade uP Deal"

Well, I do Apologize... But this seems ta me as a "Blind ta Reason"
Educated way ta Pull the "Wool Ovar Your Eyes Scream"
While Unintentionally Playin "I'm New Here!"

Oh Yeah & this was done on another Board, So Please let me Try it Here!?

"Whatcha Think? Oh Wait... Sum Others Like the idea,
So I'm Not Gunna Listen to those who MiGHT JuST Be RiGHT
Cause They've BeeN Here Fir Quite a few Hundred Auction Tours.

I also Don't assume...
That he even meant fir any of this ta happen the way it turned out!
He's just new and Didn't Know Any bettar!

imho... The business of "Tradin uP" Should be on the BST...
And as mention'd,
All the Verbal FloggiN Would Not of been Part of the Dialog...

I am by no means a Sea Cyber Lawyer or the Cyber Harbor Police...

I don't know said New Crew Member
& Although He Seems Like a Really Nice Gentlemen
Maybe he Should Care Lil Bit More...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Do7U7AkA5jA

Back ta my Cards & REA, H & S annddd...

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by irishdenny

This is just my straight forward Sum What fact event opinion!

When a new crew member comes aboard
& starts playin wit the operatin systems,
The Salty Member's get a bit Uneasy.

ie...

1st Post - How do You Do my Name is 'So & So!?"
Next 50 Posts - "I'm here ta Learn, Please teach me about Pre War!"

Then the Real Drama Begins...

New crew member Says:
"Sum one Sent me a Rude PM, - That's it, "I'm Shippin Out!"

Other's who haven't been around long enough ta see sum of the craziness
that sum New Crew Members had to offer Reply wit;

"Please stay... Don't let one knucklehead ruin your hobby!"

~ So Far this makes good sense ta me, Truly!!! ~

Howevar, a Day or 2 later...

The New Member now takes a new approach ta his new found Stardum
& Decides that this is a Grand time ta initiate his "Trade uP Deal"

Well, I do Apologize... But this seems ta me as a "Blind ta Reason"
Educated way ta Pull the "Wool Ovar Your Eyes Scream"
While Unintentionally Playin "I'm New Here!"

Oh Yeah & this was done on another Board, So Please let me Try it Here!?

"Whatcha Think? Oh Wait... Sum Others Like the idea,
So I'm Not Gunna Listen to those who MiGHT JuST Be RiGHT
Cause They've BeeN Here Fir Quite a few Hundred Auction Tours.

I also Don't assume...
That he even meant fir any of this ta happen the way it turned out!
He's just new and Didn't Know Any bettar!

imho... The business of "Tradin uP" Should be on the BST...
And as mention'd,
All the Verbal FloggiN Would Not of been Part of the Dialog...

I am by no means a Sea Cyber Lawyer or the Cyber Harbor Police...

I don't know said New Crew Member
& Although He Seems Like a Really Nice Gentlemen
Maybe he Should Care Lil Bit More...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Do7U7AkA5jA

Back ta my Cards & REA, H & S annddd...

Thats hilarious..