question about the backs of d304s

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Posted By: ali_lapoint

i have a simple question for you guys. with brunners backs, are authentic brunners printed with only green ink backs? or do there exist brunners with black print backs as well? i ask because i've been looking into acquiring one and have found examples of both. however, at times the raw examples i see have black ink backs and the graded examples have green ink backs. at first i was put off by the raw examples i've seen with black ink backs because i thought they were reprints. however, after searching the internet i was able to find this photo of a graded example with a black ink back which i have posted below. does anyone know if the black ink backs are definitely reprints and this one somehow slipped through the cracks or was the set in fact printed with both color backs?

i can't get the link to work with just the photo but here is a link to the webpage where the black ink back can be viewed:

http://www.tonyetrade.com/ImageViewer.aspx?Size=O&PhotoID=3528&CompanyID=1


same card but with a green back:

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Posted By: leon

Peter....uh..I mean ali.....I will have to check when I get home about this one being green....thanks for visiting my for-sale website though....I know the card is real and if it's really green I might have to keep it...It might have just been my imperfect scanning abilities....

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Posted By: ali_lapoint

i dont get it?

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Posted By: leon

what don't you get?

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Posted By: ali_lapoint

well are you tony? was that your site i linked to about the black ink back? who's peter? what is your opinion on black ink d304 backs?

i dont understand pretty much everything in your post.

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Posted By: Steve Murray

Alan:

What Leon is saying is that your scan of the O'Toole is from his website.

P.S. You must be looking at Tony's on a black and White monitor. The back is clearly green.

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Posted By: ali_lapoint

oh. who is peter?

am i crazy then? because to me there is a pretty huge difference in color between the two cards' backs. leon's is bright green while tony's looks either very dark or blackish to me.

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Posted By: Steve Murray

Alan:

That's an inside joke. Once you've been here long enough, you'll understand.

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Posted By: ali_lapoint

ok. fair enough. but you really think tony's back is clear bright green like leons? maybe i'm having situational color blindness but to me the backs differ greatly in appearance and are totally different in color. maybe i'm crazy?

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Posted By: Joe D.

ali -

both backs are green.


the difference in darkness is either the scan settings or maybe the ink did indeed run a little darker in one than the other.


I don't think there is much else to it.

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Posted By: ali_lapoint

ok cool. that is good news then and i am happy i passed on the black ink examples i was considering purchasing. thanks.

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Posted By: andy becker

i think all brunners backs are green.

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Posted By: ali_lapoint

i thought so too thats why i had passed on the cards i've come across with black ink backs. but when i did a google image search i came across that one tony has and thought perhaps there do exist copies with black ink backs. after looking at tony's for a while i agree with everyone else that it just a darker green variation. i'm happy that my gut was right and kept me from making some bone head moves.

i just love this set a lot and have been trying to find an example for my collection for a while. i love the look of the barry card. one of my favorite images ever next to the eddie collins e90 and the mack where he's sitting in the dugout.

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Posted By: Steve Murray

Goodwin has a full set in his 9/18 auction. Not for the faint of heart. No. 1 set on the PSA Registry.

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Posted By: JimB

All Bruners have green ink. There are some very good reprints with black ink. They are also a little smaller in size. They fooled me once many years ago.
JimB

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Posted By: leon

I failed my brown/green color eye exam in the Marines......never have a great grasp of them....and not sure I ever noticed them even being green.....

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Posted By: ali_lapoint

as far as i know the green/brown color differentiation is the most common form of color blindness. i grew up with a guy who always thought yoda was brown.

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Posted By: leon

I think you are correct with respect to the green/brown issue......and I was only messin' with you above.....No harm intended....

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Posted By: andy becker

anyone else think leon got a nooner?

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Posted By: leon

I have been married for 14 1/2 yrs......need I say more?

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Posted By: ali_lapoint

i guess in that instance less isn't more

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Posted By: andy becker

13.5 years for me. i can relate.....not sure if it's noon anywhere on the globe when i get mine