Memory Lane Gehrig expectation vs reality

[Jobu]

Chances are eBay would have passed this as a PSA 1 where the holder wasn't compromised and sent it to you. And once they clear it the sale is final, there is nothing you can do. I bought a graded card where the seller edited out colors so it looked like an error, eBay approved it, and no matter how hard I complained my way up the chain they said 'tough shit, we're not the experts, the authenticator is and what they say is final." Now, a raw card in this situation and you might have a chance of hearing from them before they pass it.

Originally Posted by Snowman

Say what you will about how annoying the eBay Authenticity Guarantee program is, they at least provide a layer of protection against stuff like this happening. They will reject cards that exhibit major flaws that are not disclosed or shown in the listings.

[vthobby]

Just another reason I only deal with REA.

That is plain fraud on their (Memory Lane) part. I'd dispute the charge on your credit card (hopefully you paid this way) and never deal with them again.

Very bad!

REA all the way!

[michael3322]

Very interesting comments.

I initially didn't understand why collectors would care about MBA ratings on top of graded slabs, but given the recent examples of inconsistencies, maybe the graders of the graders are actually providing a useful service after all? What do you think?



FYI: I have never used the MBA service and don't own any MBA graded cards.

[Snapolit1]

Never heard of MBA. Not one time.

[3-2-count]

It’s inexcusable for an AH to represent a card that they’re selling with scans like that.

[Fuddjcal]

Originally Posted by michael3322

Very interesting comments.

I initially didn't understand why collectors would care about MBA ratings on top of graded slabs, but given the recent examples of inconsistencies, maybe the graders of the graders are actually providing a useful service after all? What do you think?



FYI: I have never used the MBA service and don't own any MBA graded cards.

Isn't that the same Mike baker that authenticated 10's of thousands of FAKE Mantle DiMaggio's Williams Koufax et al, autographs while with GAI? Yea, I really want his FAKE sticker on my stupid slab.

[Snowman]

Originally Posted by Fuddjcal

Isn't that the same Mike baker that authenticated 10's of thousands of FAKE Mantle DiMaggio's Williams Koufax et al, autographs while with GAI? Yea, I really want his FAKE sticker on my stupid slab.

Mike Baker did not authenticate any autographs ever.

[Fuddjcal]

Originally Posted by Snowman

Mike Baker did not authenticate any autographs ever.

100 of thousands of fakes with HIS NAME RIGHT ON the FAKE Certificate from GAI. "look up "from the Mike Baker Collection"

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Fuddjcal

100 of thousands of fakes with HIS NAME RIGHT ON the FAKE Certificate from GAI. "look up "from the Mike Baker Collection"

He signed on behalf of GAi but I don't think there was any suggestion he was actually authenticating the autographs himself?

[Republicaninmass]

Originally Posted by Jobu

Chances are eBay would have passed this as a PSA 1 where the holder wasn't compromised and sent it to you. And once they clear it the sale is final, there is nothing you can do. I bought a graded card where the seller edited out colors so it looked like an error, eBay approved it, and no matter how hard I complained my way up the chain they said 'tough shit, we're not the experts, the authenticator is and what they say is final." Now, a raw card in this situation and you might have a chance of hearing from them before they pass it.

But you can return saying "changed mind" no?

[Jobu]

Nope.

If the seller accepts returns, you can return the card under the terms they set.

If it is listed as no returns and the authenticator passes the card, it is yours forever as soon as it hits your doorstep. (I assume with provisions for a card damaged during shipping.)

Originally Posted by Republicaninmass

But you can return saying "changed mind" no?

[Luke]

Yeah, they should want to take care of this for you. Those scans are incredibly deceiving.

[rjackson44]

Originally Posted by Luke

Yeah, they should want to take care of this for you. Those scans are incredibly deceiving.

Hi Luke im sure they will ,, never had issues with them ,,im sure snowman will be happy..

[Stonepony]

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Golden pulled something similar with me a few years ago. Card on left was their website and auction catalog image. Card on right is what I got. I
Learned my lesson with them. Their reply was crickets

[SyrNy1960]

Originally Posted by Stonepony

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Golden pulled something similar with me a few years ago. Card on left was their website and auction catalog image. Card on right is what I got. I
Learned my lesson with them. Their reply was crickets

This is insane! Snowman's card and your card clearly shows intentional deception. Anyone can clearly see that. To show a card with no creases in an auction, then the buyer receives the card with obvious creases, is dishonest and unethical.

I'm sorry you both (and others) had that happen to you!

[tjisonline]

100% . I watched the videos about shenanigans you went through with auction houses. Since watching, I now ask for additional pictures, including angled shots. Still not always enough when they answer my request (or just resend the same pics as on the site).

Originally Posted by Stonepony

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Golden pulled something similar with me a few years ago. Card on left was their website and auction catalog image. Card on right is what I got. I
Learned my lesson with them. Their reply was crickets

[ValKehl]

Originally Posted by Jobu

Nope.

If the seller accepts returns, you can return the card under the terms they set.

If it is listed as no returns and the authenticator passes the card, it is yours forever as soon as it hits your doorstep. (I assume with provisions for a card damaged during shipping.)

Even if the card is "not as described"?

[Snowman]

Originally Posted by Jobu

Nope.

If the seller accepts returns, you can return the card under the terms they set.

If it is listed as no returns and the authenticator passes the card, it is yours forever as soon as it hits your doorstep. (I assume with provisions for a card damaged during shipping.)

While this is usually the case, it's not always. It really depends. I had a card show up that passed ebay authenticity but that was altered on the back and they missed it. At first, eBay told me to pound sand, but I got a hold of a representative and provided proof with good photos of the issue and they had me send the card back to the authenticators for review. After seeing my pics and reviewing the card, they agreed with me and I was refunded.