PAWN STARS Shoeless Joe Jackson signed book...

[RichardSimon]

Something I don't quite understand here,,,
Pawn Stars, which I have watched for a grand total of 5 minutes, when they had Orville Wright signatures brought into the store, sent the book with Joe Jackson's autograph to PSA? Isn't this the show that trumpets the arrival of Drew Max (he authenticated the Orville Wright signatures) when he arrives at their store.
I would love to know why Drew Max was not used to examine this Joe Jackson autograph. I would love to know what Drew Max would have said on the air about this Joe Jackson autograph.

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by RichardSimon

Something I don't quite understand here,,,
Pawn Stars, which I have watched for a grand total of 5 minutes, when they had Orville Wright signatures brought into the store, sent the book with Joe Jackson's autograph to PSA?

So maybe there was something going on other than just a scripted plot....but equally nefarious?

[sylbry]

Originally Posted by RichardSimon

Something I don't quite understand here,,,
Pawn Stars, which I have watched for a grand total of 5 minutes, when they had Orville Wright signatures brought into the store, sent the book with Joe Jackson's autograph to PSA? Isn't this the show that trumpets the arrival of Drew Max (he authenticated the Orville Wright signatures) when he arrives at their store.
I would love to know why Drew Max was not used to examine this Joe Jackson autograph. I would love to know what Drew Max would have said on the air about this Joe Jackson autograph.

I will go out on a limb and say it is a scripted show and the scripted called for
them to make a mistake, perhaps to show not everything they purchase works out. Drew Max would have certainly called the signature authentic and trumpeted the fact that it is worth far more than what Rick paid. Thus Drew wasn't right for the part.

[Rob D.]

Something I don't quite understand ...

How come the professor could make all of those nifty gadgets, but he couldn't invent something that would help get the castaways off of the island?

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by Rob D.

Something I don't quite understand ...

How come the professor could make all of those nifty gadgets, but he couldn't invent something that would help get the castaways off of the island?

Is the above a metaphor for T206Resource.com ?

[Rob D.]

Originally Posted by Runscott

Is the above a metaphor for T206Resource.com ?

No, it was an implication that if you're going to wonder why something didn't play out a certain way on a reality show like Pawn Stars, you might as well question the storylines on sitcoms like Gilligan's Island. Because they're both scripted.

[Matthew H]

Originally Posted by Rob D.

No, it was an implication that if you're going to wonder why something didn't play out a certain way on a reality show like Pawn Stars, you might as well question the storylines on sitcoms like Gilligan's Island. Because they're both scripted.

Gilligan's Island had real actors, so there might have been some improv there... Just trying to be fair to Gilligan's Island.

[Shoeless Moe]

The bigger question is why would Shoeless Joe sign that book. The signature can be debated and for a guy who couldn't write it's always going to look shakey. 50 people could say yes it looks good another 50 could say no it looks bad. And u could have 10 "experts" look at it and again 5 say good 5 say no good.

So there is no way anyone will ever know with 100% certainty if it's good or bad.

However. I think the real question is why would Joe sign that book? He has virtually no history of autographing "anything". Anything, other then a few legal documents and a few baseballs, that usually were team signed balls when "he was playing".

His wife did ALL his signing of autograph requests.

So why out of the blue does he sign "one" book. And I'm not sure of the contents, but if anyone is please chime in, isn't the book slightly negative toward him.

No one, including Herman will know with certainty if that sig is real, but history of JJ tells us more likely it is not.

[Stalwart Fellow]

Originally Posted by Shoeless Moe

The bigger question is why would Shoeless Joe sign that book. The signature can be debated and for a guy who couldn't write it's always going to look shakey. 50 people could say yes it looks good another 50 could say no it looks bad. And u could have 10 "experts" look at it and again 5 say good 5 say no good.

So there is no way anyone will ever know with 100% certainty if it's good or bad.

However. I think the real question is why would Joe sign that book? He has virtually no history of autographing "anything". Anything, other then a few legal documents and a few baseballs, that usually were team signed balls when "he was playing".

His wife did ALL his signing of autograph requests.

So why out of the blue does he sign "one" book. And I'm not sure of the contents, but if anyone is please chime in, isn't the book slightly negative toward him.

No one, including Herman will know with certainty if that sig is real, but history of JJ tells us more likely it is not.

Well reasoned and convincing argument as to why the item should not have been given written authentication.

Often such authentication does offer the naive a certain consolation.

Sure, the item can be sold then resold! There are many trusting fools with cash to fritter away.

[Deertick]

Originally Posted by Shoeless Moe

The bigger question is why would Shoeless Joe sign that book. The signature can be debated and for a guy who couldn't write it's always going to look shakey. 50 people could say yes it looks good another 50 could say no it looks bad. And u could have 10 "experts" look at it and again 5 say good 5 say no good.

So there is no way anyone will ever know with 100% certainty if it's good or bad.

However. I think the real question is why would Joe sign that book? He has virtually no history of autographing "anything". Anything, other then a few legal documents and a few baseballs, that usually were team signed balls when "he was playing".

His wife did ALL his signing of autograph requests.

So why out of the blue does he sign "one" book. And I'm not sure of the contents, but if anyone is please chime in, isn't the book slightly negative toward him.

No one, including Herman will know with certainty if that sig is real, but history of JJ tells us more likely it is not.

I asked Herman these questions:

• Why would it be smooth flowing, relative to known sigs? (see Stalwart Fellows post above)
• Why would he sign a BOOK when he was so apprehensive to sign his MORTGAGE and WILL?
• Under what circumstances do you feel someone would feel the need to clarify a plainly obvious signature, especially on a book referencing that individual?
• As far as the erasure, are there other examples of such behavior?

I have not received any answer as yet. I now lean toward agreement with the PSA assessment.

[mr2686]

Originally Posted by Rob D.

Something I don't quite understand ...

How come the professor could make all of those nifty gadgets, but he couldn't invent something that would help get the castaways off of the island?

Why would he want off the island when he had Ginger and Maryanne there?

[terjung]

Originally Posted by Rob D.

Something I don't quite understand ...

How come the professor could make all of those nifty gadgets, but he couldn't invent something that would help get the castaways off of the island?

Sounds like something I heard in a Weird Al parody ... "Isle Thing" as memory serves.

[Shoeless Moe]

Originally Posted by sylbry

Drew Max would have certainly called the signature authentic and trumpeted the fact that it is worth far more than what Rick paid. Thus Drew wasn't right for the part.

You need to take this more seriously. I happen to know for a fact that Drew was in the hospital because some joker put a spring loaded snake that jumped out of his big black magnifying glass bag like that fake can of nuts trick.

Nearly scared him to death.

My best goes out to Drew for a quick recovery.

[RichardSimon]

Originally Posted by shoeless moe

my best goes out to drew for a quick recovery.

+1

[travrosty]

Originally Posted by RichardSimon

Something I don't quite understand here,,,
Pawn Stars, which I have watched for a grand total of 5 minutes, when they had Orville Wright signatures brought into the store, sent the book with Joe Jackson's autograph to PSA? Isn't this the show that trumpets the arrival of Drew Max (he authenticated the Orville Wright signatures) when he arrives at their store.
I would love to know why Drew Max was not used to examine this Joe Jackson autograph. I would love to know what Drew Max would have said on the air about this Joe Jackson autograph.

they only use Drew when there is no authentication that accompanies the piece, if it already has a cert from someone, I believe Drew recuses himself from opining on the piece, probably to avoid dueling authenticators. just my opinion.

[vintagechris]

Originally Posted by travrosty

they only use Drew when there is no authentication that accompanies the piece, if it already has a cert from someone, I believe Drew recuses himself from opining on the piece, probably to avoid dueling authenticators. just my opinion.

I could be wrong, but they may not be using Drew Max anymore. It seems like he hasn't been on this season. On another note, I believe he is pictured on Frank Prisco's website posing with Frank.

[Mr. Zipper]

Originally Posted by vintagechris

I could be wrong, but they may not be using Drew Max anymore. It seems like he hasn't been on this season. On another note, I believe he is pictured on Frank Prisco's website posing with Frank.

That is a very strange photo for a number of reasons. I believe Drew Max has been photoshopped into the photo.

[Mr. Zipper]

Originally Posted by Mr. Zipper

That is a very strange photo for a number of reasons. I believe Drew Max has been photoshopped into the photo.

Very large magnifying glass. Very tight t-shirt.