Uncorrected Pre-War Errors

[G1911]

Some of them are fun, some are amusing, and many are pedantic. Show the ones you've found or know of.

I've never seen this one identified before, but this classic card never ceases to look out of place to me. All the ball players but Glasscock have a standard naming format putting the position and team name in parentheses. On Cap Anson though, they started the parentheses and then forgot to close it.

[Steve D]

All the caramel cards of "Cy" Young, that actually picture Irv Young; as well as the T3 "Home Run Baker", that's a picture of Jack Barry.

I will absolutely never understand people who pay the Cy Young and HR Baker (HOFer) prices for those cards.


Steve

[h2oya311]

This one of Richard William “Rube” Marquard kills me…why in the world did the producers of this postcard set decide that his name was Charles???

[Spike]

Similar thinking on this card of Zeb (not HOF Bill or even "William H.") Terry. It appears the F50 card editors wrote in the wrong Terry when they revived a stack of images from E135 for their dairy/candy promotions in the late 1920s. A painful price for Zeb collectors to pay! Note the original image included Zeb's White Sox jersey logo, which this "William H. Terry" version removes. https://www.tcdb.com/ViewCard.cfm/si...-171-Zeb-Terry

[BioCRN]

Originally Posted by Spike

Similar thinking on this card of Zeb (not HOF Bill or even "William H.") Terry. It appears the F50 card editors wrote in the wrong Terry when they revived a stack of images from E135 for their dairy/candy promotions in the late 1920s.[/url]

Hack Wilson cards from this similar slew of card releases (F50, E210, etc) is actually Art Wilson.

It is a problem because of the limited issues of non-exhibit/postcard Hack Wilson cards out there from his Cubs playing days...and very especially for those that shun the various 1933 cards since his last season with the Cubs was 1931.

[G1911]

There are many spelling errors, but usually they were just a letter off or would have the same pronunciation. Smith and Schmidt are pretty far apart! They got his name right on his other pose.

[BabyRuth]

I love the quirkiness of this little set and the primitive drawings

[jcmtiger]

Originally Posted by Steve D

All the caramel cards of "Cy" Young, that actually picture Irv Young; as well as the T3 "Home Run Baker", that's a picture of Jack Barry.

I will absolutely never understand people who pay the Cy Young and HR Baker (HOFer) prices for those cards.


Steve

Maybe now that you pointed that out prices sold might be less LOL

[brianp-beme]

I have always appreciated this uncorrected spelling error on the E220 National Caramel card of Jim Bagby.

Brian

[G1911]

They got Tannehill's uniform right, but missed the designation that puts him with the National and not the American League.

[G1911]

Tom Daly got his name misspelled as Daily. More significantly, they put Billy Sunday's picture on his card too. On Sunday's card, they pictured Mark Baldwin apparently. Oops.

[z28jd]

Originally Posted by Steve D

All the caramel cards of "Cy" Young, that actually picture Irv Young; as well as the T3 "Home Run Baker", that's a picture of Jack Barry.

I will absolutely never understand people who pay the Cy Young and HR Baker (HOFer) prices for those cards.


Steve

Most of the Cy Young cards with Irv Young are not errors. Irv Young went by Cy Young all of the time, to the point that they started calling the original one "Old" Cy Young to tell them apart. The cards that list Irv Young as Cy Young were just using the same nickname everyone else used back then.

The error is just people thinking there was only one Cy Young BUT the E98 Cy Young that lists him with Cleveland is an error. You just have to figure out if the error is that they thought it was the 511-win Young OR the wrong team listed for Irv Young.

As a side note, when Harley Young came up, he was called Cy the Third. He was traded for Irv Young at one point and both of them were referred to by the Cy nickname in various articles covering the trade.

[Leon]

From my previous collection. Paid Terry Knouse 1k for it about 20 yrs ago. Then sold it in my first collection sale ( I think )...I thought it was Cy Young when I bought it

[brunswickreeves]

I’m going to break the post a bit here and post a post-war card but one that’s pretty significant…

Mickey Mantle's last card #500 from 1969 Topps contains a statistical error. YEAR 1955 notes AVG. of .307, when in fact is actually .306. All prior Topps cards with this year's stat. correctly note .306. And interestingly enough, the Major League Totals line on Mick's 1969 Topps card correctly reflects lifetime AVG. of .298 (which would be derived with a 1955 AVG. of .306 (not .307 as noted on the card).

Fun Fact: If Mick had only 1 additional hit in each of his 18 seasons, he would have ended up in the .300 Club, with a career total of 2433 hits from 8120 at bats!

[brunswickreeves]

Not mine but one recently on BST, Hon(a)s Wagner…

[Seven]

Originally Posted by brunswickreeves

Fun Fact: If Mick had only 1 additional hit in each of his 18 seasons, he would have ended up in the .300 Club, with a career total of 2433 hits from 8120 at bats!

Mantle always said one of his biggest regrets was him not hitting .300 for his career. Due to his less than stellar performance, in his final few seasons.

[brianp-beme]

Here is my favorite group of uncorrected error cards. Tex Wisterzil is in four different Zeenut sets: 1918, 1919, 1920 and 1922. Each of his cards has his last name incorrectly spelled:

1918 and 1920: 'Wisterzill'

1919: 'Westerzil' (shown below)

1922: 'Westersil' (shown below)


Brian

[kmac32]

The T206 Juan Viola is Violat on the card. Looking for it in Piedmont back and Hindu back but it is an interesting error.

[Bjw1978]

Originally Posted by G1911

There are many spelling errors, but usually they were just a letter off or would have the same pronunciation. Smith and Schmidt are pretty far apart! They got his name right on his other pose.

I’ve always wondered if they were just Anglocizing his name since Schmidt is the German version of Smith. He never went by Smith that I know of. But his birth name WAS Carl (German) and he/his family changed it to Charles (English for Carl)

[Spike]

When good prewar goes bad(d)

[Leon]

Here is Seymour or better known as Baker.....along with a few others, all of which I don't own any longer
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[G1911]

Bill Burns didn't have 6 fingers, as far as I am aware.

[GeoPoto]

Or use a right-hander glove!?

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[G1911]

I’d love to see the original photo the artists modeled the two different renditions of. That they both mess up the glove while getting them right on the other cards is very weird.

[brianp-beme]

Originally Posted by G1911

Bill Burns didn't have 6 fingers, as far as I am aware.

Bill Burns did have 6 fingers, that is why he always hid them beneath his glove, and he even batted wearing that same glove.


Brian (A couple of years ago I legally changed my middle name to 'Misinformation')

[brianp-beme]

Some folks have 6 fingers, whereas I seemingly have double posts.


Brian

[GeoPoto]

Lost in the mist of time is Walter Johnson's (or somebody's), unusual ability to throw with either hand. Helps explain his legendary success keeping hitters off-balance.

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[GeoPoto]

I also can't resist another opportunity to surface the player with the worst name a golfer could have: Howie Shanks. Unfortunately, you can't see Howie, because the picture is of another player, who also sports a great name: Wally Schang.

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[GeoPoto]

And, since you got me started, here's another one, although I sympathize with the writer in this case. They call Edgar "Sam", so it has to be his middle name, right? Actually, nobody knows how Sam came about, even though the use of the nickname apparently arose after his professional baseball career began.

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[StraightRaceCards]

Originally Posted by GeoPoto

Or use a right-hander glove!?

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He must have been nicknamed 6 finger Burns. He and Mordecai would have something to talk about.

Maybe Burns could donate a finger to Mordecai Brown

[G1911]

Several of the other Tango Eggs just rename a subject to be somebody else. Here's "Ray Morgan"

[Cat]

Deep in the weeds E107 collectors/students will know these errors, but if you are not one of those people some of these may not be common knowledge:

The Winter(s) card is actually Patsy Dougherty (Winter didn't get a photo).

The Dougherty card is a photo of Long Tom Hughes.

The Charlie Jones card is a picture of Tom Jones (who never played for Boston).

There are other checklist errors (not to be confused with errors of the set): "Fred" Beck is actually Erve Beck. "Ira" Thomas is Roy Thomas. "Jake" Stahl is Chick Stahl. Also, some sites still list Alpermann as a possibility. Not true. I believe the Alpermann mistake came from a grading company's mislabeling of a graded card years ago and then adding it to their site. Also, Roscoe Miller is actually George Mullin, but that mistake has been corrected - at least by the grading services.

[terjung]

Great info on Tom Jones. I never caught that one before, but his T204 shows Tom's portrait and it's certainly a match. Really nice "Roscoe" example too! That one's a toughie!