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Don Sutton's Shameful Past
Posted By: Julie Vognar
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Don Sutton's Shameful Past
Posted By: steve k
Julie - You've got the "Bay of Pigs" mixed up with the "Cuban Missle Crisis." They were seperate incidents. I've seen other people get them mixed up also. In any event, as was mentioned, I shouldn't be using logic so I'm done with this thread. I'm going back to bashing baseball card scammers. |
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Posted By: Julie Vognar
...... |
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Don Sutton's Shameful Past
Posted By: runscott
In any case, I appreciate you all giving me something to do on a very boring Friday afternoon! Have a great weekend |
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Don Sutton's Shameful Past
Posted By: Pcelli60
Am I the only guy here that thinks Sutton is a marginal HOFer? |
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Don Sutton's Shameful Past
Posted By: Dan
Sutton is Extremely marginal. So, do you all feel that Boggs and Sandberg are shoe-in's for this years...HOF vote? Who else for this year? |
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Don Sutton's Shameful Past
Posted By: Joe P.
That he's a compassionate marginal Righty. |
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Don Sutton's Shameful Past
Posted By: Dan
the issues with the Yankees that is. If only they had won that game, maybe they would have won all of those championships and the Yankees would simply be called the "bombers" for all the wrong reasons not the right reasons. |
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Posted By: Pcelli60
Joe P you could be the Poet Laureate of the board.. |
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Posted By: Joe P.
"Republican or democrat, consider the following: |
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Posted By: Julie Vognar
(potential HOFers) |
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Don Sutton's Shameful Past
Posted By: Julie Vognar
(potential HOFers) |
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Don Sutton's Shameful Past
Posted By: Adam J. Moraine
AM I THE ONLY REPUBLICAN ON THIS MESSAGE BOARD? |
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Don Sutton's Shameful Past
Posted By: Brian Weisner
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Don Sutton's Shameful Past
Posted By: David Vargha
Far from it, Adam. |
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Don Sutton's Shameful Past
Posted By: Julie Vognar
Start over, and look for words friendly to your opinions. |
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Don Sutton's Shameful Past
Posted By: tbob
Republican or democrat, consider the following: |
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Posted By: Julie Vognar
The sooner the better. |
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Don Sutton's Shameful Past
Posted By: Greg Ecklund
The sad thing is that other than his admirable service in Vietnam, a description of Kerry's background and Bush's background is quite similar. Both were born with silver spoons and neither has a very substantive political background - Bush with a governorship that he won solely on his pedigree and Kerry, while a long serving Senator, has a fairly short list of accomplishments considering how much time he has served there. |
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Posted By: Julie Vognar
(and I don't mean the National); but I doubt it... |
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Posted By: Pcelli60
I wonder if Sutton had an LA hair dresser in the 70's ? |
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Don Sutton's Shameful Past
Posted By: Julie Vognar
... |
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Don Sutton's Shameful Past
Posted By: Dan
Kerry married the Heinz heiress, she has a fortune. Something about her husband, Mr Heinz falling out of the sky in an heiressplane, I mean airplane. Funny thing is, from what I have been told, she made him sign a pre-nup, but he is still not someone I would want running this country. |
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Don Sutton's Shameful Past
Posted By: Joe P.
Quote by Dan: |
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Posted By: Joe P.
A story worth reading, and well told. |
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Don Sutton's Shameful Past
Posted By: Gary B.
I've stayed away from this thread previously, and now I see why. One thing that truly saddens me is how deeply polarized this country is. Look at how close the elections were in 2000 and how close the polls are now - both sides feel very justified in their positions and see the other side as anywhere from simply wrong to truly evil. This is a vintage baseball card board, but feelings are so high on the current state of the world (myself included), that this might as well be a political board, as the level of intensity is equally as strong as I've seen in recent weeks on boards that are devoted to politics. |
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Posted By: Joe P.
How can anyone follow that? |
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Don Sutton's Shameful Past
Posted By: Hal Lewis
Do you REALLY want to know why Bush went to WAR with Iraq?? |
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Don Sutton's Shameful Past
Posted By: Pcelli60
Now does anyone feel that Gaylord Perry is a marginal HOFer ? |
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Don Sutton's Shameful Past
Posted By: jay behrens
He's in. He got in by a vote of writers. It didn't take a bunch friends in the Veterans Committee to vote him. Doesn't matter if he is marginal or not. He is in. End of dicussion. |
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Don Sutton's Shameful Past
Posted By: David Vargha
Jay -- As Neil Young said, it's better to burn out than to fade away (at least for Hall of Fame voting). |
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Don Sutton's Shameful Past
Posted By: tbob
I have always felt that if you let Koufax in for a great shining career that was ended early by injury, you had to let in Tony Oliva with all his batting championships and great play. I think it's a shame former Twin Kirby Puckett gets in and Tony O didn't, simply because of television and the media in the 90's compared to how coverage was in the 60's. When you ask the star pitchers of the 60's in the American League who was the best hitter they ever faced, it was always "Oliva." |
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Posted By: jay behrens
Oliva was favorite player as a kid and stillone of the greatest hitters I've ever seen play. There are a lot of paralels between Oliva and Puckett, but Puckett has the advantage of playing for 2 championship teams and his famous "Climb on my back" quote from game 6 of the 1991 series. If the Twins had not run up against the Baltimore juggernaut of the late 60s, Oliva might have had a title or 2 too. And we all know how heavy winning title weighs in even though one player can't win it on his own. |
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Posted By: Pcelli60
Perez and Cepeda but no Hodges? Oliva before Santo? |
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Posted By: Julie Vognar
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Don Sutton's Shameful Past
Posted By: jay behrens
Santo is the one egregious error that the sports writers have made. Santo definately belongs. As stated before, Oliva was my favorite player as a kid, but it doesn't bother me that he is in the Hall. Just wish his knee hadn't given out. |
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