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Old 07-24-2004, 12:23 PM
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Posted By: Paul

I guess if anyone fell for this one, they'd pretty much deserve what they get.

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Old 07-24-2004, 12:51 PM
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I "shell" not be the one to fall for this scam.

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Old 07-24-2004, 01:18 PM
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What the heck is it?

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Old 07-24-2004, 02:32 PM
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Posted By: Joe P.

Henry Reccius was a cigar manufacturer.
The card is from about 1898/99 thereabouts, when Honus played for the Louisville Colonels.

The sad part of all of this is.
Forget about the fact that the card being offer is a reprint.

Dam, he duzn't axept cheks.
That denize me the chanz of reeping my rewhords.

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Old 07-24-2004, 03:15 PM
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Posted By: Max

Is there a complete listing somewhere of all the commonly available reprint cards? I've looked at Larry Fritsch's site http://www.fritschcards.com/pages/reprints.html#Other . Are there other sets out there? His list for example doesn't include the N300 here.

Are there examples of master forgers creating cards much as master forgers would in the art world, through the use of old paper, printing techniques, etc? Thanks,

Max

Not a reprint or forgery:

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Posted By: Pcelli60

This guy has a clean score.. So what on earth could have led him to a life of crime !

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There are no examples of master forgers making cards-- some no doubt THINK they're master forgers. Realize that nearly all card forgers aren't trying to fool Lew Lipset or Kevin Struss. They're trying to fool collectors who bid on "Card is being sold as ungraded un-authenticated and/or reprint, I'm crazy to sell this so cheap but I have to go to college next week, no guarantees offered or implied, absolutely no refunds" auctions. There have been a few examples of more advanced card forgeries that have fooled experienced dealers, but they are not common.

With photographs, the problem is the misidentification, description and, in particular, misdating of otherwise genine items. This type of non-forgery misidentification happens with major auction houses.

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I should add that making an advanced counterfeit is many times more difficult than making an advanced forgery on a brand-new item (aka 'fantasy'). This is for various reasons, including that one has genuine examples with which to compare. In fact, the recent cases of higher-level forgeries have been of the the brand-new fantasy type.

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Posted By: Julie Vognar

Although I can't imagine why.

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Posted By: Joe P.

Athenticated and Graded.

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"I'm crazy for doing this."
At least we can agree on this.
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how these counterfeits come out just weeks after the cards are first discovered!

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