A 107 year old record HAS BEEN BROKEN

[Joshchisox08]

Not that many would care unless you're a White Sox fan but..........

Chris Sale is chasing "Big Ed" Walsh's single season strikeout record, that he set in 1908 of 269.

Sale entered the game with 259 and has 8k's as we speak. Only 3 more to go. I'm usually not happy about old record being broken but when you think of the ball they use today compared to when Big Ed used it it is a drastic difference. I'll bypass that he was allowed the spitball as it was "legal" so NO biased opinion there. Sale is also facing juicers as well.

[kmac32]

a good year for breaking records in Chicago. Kris Bryant broke Billy Williams's home run and RBI records ealier this rear for Cub home runs by a rookie set in 1961. Darn record only held for 54 years. One of the big reasons that the Cubbies will be a lock for the post seasen. Finally something to cheer about for the North Siders

[Mark]

Impressive record for Sale. And Big Ed still will have the record for a right handed Sox pitcher.

[scooter729]

The thread becomes official when a scan is posted.

T3 of Big Ed, along with his sig on a ball (along with Foxx and Joe D)....

[Joshchisox08]

Originally Posted by scooter729

The thread becomes official when a scan is posted.

T3 of Big Ed, along with his sig on a ball (along with Foxx and Joe D)....

Super impressive Scott !!! How I'd love to own a Sox player or a T3 in general.

And how on earth you got that ball

[Joshchisox08]

Sale fell short.

currently sits on 267 k's

2 will tie Walsh
3 will surpass his single season Sox record

He should get 1 more start so I would imagine 3 k's will be pretty easy for him.

[scooter729]

Originally Posted by Joshchisox08

Super impressive Scott !!! How I'd love to own a Sox player or a T3 in general.

And how on earth you got that ball

Thanks - I got the ball maybe 20 years ago, directly from a Red Sox scout who had it signed himself at the 1955 HOF induction. He had 3 of them, all identical. Many other impressive names on the other panels too. I just wish I bought all 3 from him, but money was much tighter at the time, so I'm glad I got one!

[rats60]

I am shocked that any strike out records exist from that long ago. 100 years ago, everyone was a contact hitter and strikeouts were low. The last 50+ years, players have been chasing HRs and they don't care about Ks.

[mattsey9]

Originally Posted by rats60

I am shocked that any strike out records exist from that long ago. 100 years ago, everyone was a contact hitter and strikeouts were low. The last 50+ years, players have been chasing HRs and they don't care about Ks.

I was curious who held the Cubs mark. It's Bill Hutchinson, who set the team mark of 314 in 1892. I guess not everyone could catch up to Bill's heater even in the contact hitter days. It also doesn't hurt when you have 67 CGs...

Fergie Jenkins is the closest modern pitcher to the Cubs record.

[darwinbulldog]

The top 7 are all from the 19th century.

[clydepepper]

Originally Posted by rats60

I am shocked that any strike out records exist from that long ago. 100 years ago, everyone was a contact hitter and strikeouts were low. The last 50+ years, players have been chasing HRs and they don't care about Ks.

Strikeouts have become such a small deal now that they don't even list them in BaseballAmerica Prospect Reports or on the back of new Baseball Cards.

As a Braves' fan, 2014 shows the reality of the effect of too many strikeouts:

The only way that team could score at all was over the fence - no wonder they had to clear house.

I think (and hope) that strikeouts will soon, once again, become something to be avoided. And I hope that pull hitters again learn to hit to the opposite field instead of always hitting into the shifts - the very notion of 'outlawing' shifts is about the most ridiculous thing I ever heard of.

[Mark]

Originally Posted by mattsey9

I was curious who held the Cubs mark. It's Bill Hutchinson, who set the team mark of 314 in 1892. I guess not everyone could catch up to Bill's heater even in the contact hitter days. It also doesn't hurt when you have 67 CGs...

He also had a wipeout curve.

[pro9]

What's this thread without a card of Hutchinson

[itjclarke]

Originally Posted by rats60

I am shocked that any strike out records exist from that long ago. 100 years ago, everyone was a contact hitter and strikeouts were low. The last 50+ years, players have been chasing HRs and they don't care about Ks.

It's largely because those guys threw 400-450+ innings... or more-- see Hoss Radbourn. Their K's/9 innings don't come close to modern era power guys like Randy Johnson, Roger Clemens... even Greg Maddux had a higher K rate than most of the older guys.

[frankbmd]

When I saw this thread title, I naturally assumed that someone thought the Cubs were going to win the World Series this year.

[Joshchisox08]

Originally Posted by frankbmd

when i saw this thread title, i naturally assumed that someone thought the cubs were going to win the world series this year. :d:d

hahahhahahahahahhahahaha

[kmac32]

Originally Posted by frankbmd

When I saw this thread title, I naturally assumed that someone thought the Cubs were going to win the World Series this year.

How do you know they won't Frank? Didn't you see the prediction in the "Back to the Future" movies.

[The Nasty Nati]

I feel Big Ed Walsh is such an underrated (and undervalued) player. He's definitely one of my favorite portraits in the T206 set. Let's see your Walshs.

[Joshchisox08]

Good idea. This is my old scan still gotta finish up all my SGCs (rescanning on a good scanner). Def intend on upgrading this some day.

[pbspelly]

Big Ed cruising around with my (not so big) great grandfather in a sweet convertible. Gotta love the horn.

[Joshchisox08]

Congratulations to Chris Sale for breaking a 107 year old club record tonight. 270 !!!! Move over "Big Ed" the record is now Sale's !!!

[4815162342]

You know about the water cooler section right?

[Joshchisox08]

Oh yeah well seee ummmmmm if it wasn't moved when the original thread was started then I guess it doesn't need to be there, yeah.

[PolarBear]

Originally Posted by frankbmd

When I saw this thread title, I naturally assumed that someone thought the Cubs were going to win the World Series this year.

Ouch.