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Old 06-18-2004, 09:40 PM
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Posted By: Tbob 

O.K. fellow collectors, what do you think PSA graded this card. (Hint, I am not one of the in-crowd nor a "heavy hitter" just a collector.



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Old 06-18-2004, 09:43 PM
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Posted By: Scott Elkins

tbob - PSA 2
Mastronet - PSA 5

How did I do??????? Do I win $2500?

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Old 06-18-2004, 09:45 PM
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Posted By: Bill Kasel

a 2, with that lower left corner crease.

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Old 06-18-2004, 09:48 PM
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Posted By: Tbob

Colors are much much nicer than the scan.

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Old 06-18-2004, 09:54 PM
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Posted By: Scott Elkins

a 1!!!!!!!!!!??????????? They must be wanting re-grade money!

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Old 06-18-2004, 10:07 PM
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Posted By: Jason

I guess a 4 but should be a 3.

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Posted By: Elliot

I agree with Jason, but not out of place in a 3 or 4 holder.

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Old 06-18-2004, 10:54 PM
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Posted By: BCD

David Bryan would get it in an SGC 80 holder easy.


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Old 06-18-2004, 11:04 PM
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Posted By: Judge Dred

The scan provided shows little detail but I can pick out what appears to be a crease in the lower third on the left hand side and I was wondering, is there any paper loss near the name?

It looks like it could be a 3 but without more details it could have been graded lower. Paper loss (or just about any paper damage) will keep it graded (by PSA) to no greater than 2 and in a lot of cases, a 1.

I can't wait to find out the grade....

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Old 06-19-2004, 12:26 AM
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Posted By: Bill Cornell

Duh - use the usual formula:


Oh, wait, I forgot the TBob factor in the equation. Grade: 1 (PR-FR)

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Old 06-19-2004, 12:59 AM
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Posted By: jay behrens

when I was studying nuclear power, during our late night cram sessions we would play Name That Equation, but for the life of me, I can't figure out what that's from.

We also used to play cartoon trivia. My personal favorite.

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Old 06-19-2004, 08:47 AM
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Posted By: Casey

That seems to be a heavy crease noticeable on both front and back, but the corners are in nice shape and the back is really clean. My natural guess would have been a 3, but based on the amusement here, I'm going with a 3.5. Sometimes they stamp a 4 on a card with pretty good wear if it has a great picture and color, just a bit tough to tell from the scan.

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Old 06-19-2004, 11:13 AM
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Posted By: Scott Cowan

I think from looking at the card that it will have been given a 2.

However they most likely gave it a 5 and said it was a Sandy Koufax rookie card

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Old 06-19-2004, 12:20 PM
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Posted By: jay behrens

No, it is labeled a Gene Hermansk 1948 Leaf

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Old 06-19-2004, 12:31 PM
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Posted By: Tom L.

. . . based onthe crease, corners, imperfection on the name at the bottom, centering. What did they give it? (A 4 or 5?)

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Posted By: lentel

The suspense is killing me!!!

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Old 06-19-2004, 01:17 PM
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Posted By: leon

and "maybe" this is one of those all too familiar atrocities I will say a 5.

From the scans, and taking into consideration the corners, I would grade it a 2-3 ....closer to a 3.
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Old 06-19-2004, 01:23 PM
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Posted By: Scott Elkins

I once had a T206 BL 350 with a much larger crease directly in the MIDDLE of the card (visible on front and back) that was graded a PSA 6!!!!!!!! Of course, it was NOT one I had sent in - must have been an auction house submittal!

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Old 06-19-2004, 02:31 PM
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BTW- The "y" in Haley doesn't have paper loss, it is just a faded letter. The crease lower left looks worse in the scan, at first glance the card appears to be at least a "3" and I was disappointed but could have lived with a "2" but a "1"? I have seen cards that had chunks torn off or looked like they traveled through someone's digestive tract that were 1s and I have seen some pretty horrible looking 2s come out of PSA.
Just don't get it, maybe a name change is in order. How about TMastro?

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Old 06-20-2004, 12:45 AM
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Compared to your Obak card this Ramly should grade almost poor or -1.

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Posted By: Lee Behrens

Any chance there is a pinhole in the card that you did not notice? I have purchased some nice looking low grade PSA cards with pinholes that are hardly noticable.

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Posted By: Tbob

Compare it to this equally graded card.

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Old 06-21-2004, 07:33 AM
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Posted By: warshawlaw

comparisons of how crappy a 1 is are not very useful. A 1 is the lowest grade. By definition, everything that stinks falls into it, regardless of whether it is bad, worse or worst of all.

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Old 06-21-2004, 01:09 PM
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Posted By: Lee Behrens

But TBob's Obak doesn't stink just the grade. i believe the grading companies could be more specific on lower end grades. There are plenty of collectors out there that do not collect high end stuff only low end and more affordable to most everyones budget.

By the Way Bob, are you going to let the Haley card go for a "Fair" price.

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Old 06-21-2004, 10:37 PM
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Posted By: TBob

from completing the set. I have had about 25 of the cards graded, 5 by PSA, a few by SGC and most by GAI. I am contemplating completing the set and then selling it as a set by consignment or card by card on ebay. The problem is the last 5 may or may not ever show up. Perhaps you'll see a near set in an auction near you soon

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