Black Sox pickups

[Forever Young]

Joe with his trophies: Joe is shown with two trophies he won in 1917. The trophy on the right he won in Boston by throwing a baseball 396 feet in competition against the best long-distance throwers in the American and National leagues(including Ruth). He broke all records for throwing a baseball the farthest. The trophy on the left is for outbatting Ty Cobb in a critical series in 1917. The picture of Joe was taken while he was traveling back to his native South after the baseball season. He stopped long enough between trains to pose for this picture. These trophies are still in the Jackson family..............

[mr2686]

How about a couple of Hall of Famers. I often wonder if Red Faber would have been one of the boys and taken money if he would have been healthy enough to play.

[ksfarmboy]

Shoeless who's in the photograph and I can't make out the bat.

[snider4prez]

Great stuff guys!!! My favorite subject. Here are a few things I have on the old Black Soxs
Trevor

[MGHPro]

One of the rarest, if not the rarest of the Spalding bats
Matt

[Shoeless Moe]

Thanks.....the pix is a Bain of Happy Felsch and the bat is a Game Used 1916-1919 Chick Gandil. Sorry the pix of it isn't good, the name looks better in person.

[mr2686]

Oh man I'd love to have a couple of 1919 WS stubs...great stuff.
Here's a couple more autos from the team:

[Yi]

Some photos I have.

[Shoeless Moe]

I've been watching for 15 years now. I've seen 3 of these, one being this one, the other 2: one in a Chicago Restaurant about 6 years ago I was in and made an offer to the owner who declined. Saw another one after the fact at auction that went for a $1000 unframed (however in better condition then the one I just picked up). Mine came very nicely pre-framed. Just THEE Best Headline/Paper I've ever seen, finally snagged one.

[JoeyFarino]

My paul thompson photo

[Shoeless Moe]

Originally Posted by Shoeless Moe

I've been watching for 15 years now. I've seen 3 of these, one being this one, the other 2: one in a Chicago Restaurant about 6 years ago I was in and made an offer to the owner who declined. Saw another one after the fact at auction that went for a $1000 unframed (however in better condition then the one I just picked up). Mine came very nicely pre-framed. Just THEE Best Headline/Paper I've ever seen, finally snagged one.

All "8 Men out" are shown.

[jonvancouver]

Do those bats ever come up for auction?

[mr2686]

Originally Posted by Yi

Some photos I have.

I was going back over this tread and I saw the press verbiage on the back of Gandil's photo mentioning the 1917 fix involving the White Sox and the Tigers. Interesting that obviously the 1919 team were not just pissed off about not getting a bonus, but probably were also prone to fixing games. The attached link is about the 1917 scandal, and what also is interesting is they mention Detroit pitcher Bill James. The same Bill James that made it on to the 1919 White Sox late in the season and did pitch 4.2 innings in the series giving up 8 hits annd 4 runs. Now maybe he was just washed up, or maybe...just maybe there were more than 8 men out. LOL
https://www.vintagedetroit.com/blog/...n-the-pennant/

[ThomasL]

I always thought Bill James and Byrd Lynn probably knew about the fix before the series started...James based on his involvement in the 1917 "fix" stuff and Lynn bc he was TIGHT with Jackson (WS roomate) and Lefty Williams...also both James and Lynn were West Coast PCL players...as were a vast majority of banned players (Gandil, Gedeon, Risberg, Williams, Chase, McMullin, Weaver)

[Joshchisox08]

Originally Posted by snider4prez

Great stuff guys!!! My favorite subject. Here are a few things I have on the old Black Soxs
Trevor

Mother of god that pennant !!!!!!!

[CrazyDiamond]

Picked this up from another board member

[ThomasL]

while searching through things, as Im new to the website, I thought I would post in this old thread as it is my main area of collecting. Over the years I have bought and sold many items, some I wish I had never sold (a Morris Rath signed GPC for starters). These are some autographs I currently have, including two 1917 Sox.

[Djcmac1]

Originally Posted by snider4prez

Great stuff guys!!! My favorite subject. Here are a few things I have on the old Black Soxs
Trevor

Love the pennant!

[mr2686]

I figured I'd never get a Lefty Williams auto, so I went ahead and picked up this. I don't get a lot of relic cards, but I thought this would go well with my display.

[Mark]

Originally Posted by mr2686

I figured I'd never get a Lefty Williams auto, so I went ahead and picked up this. I don't get a lot of relic cards, but I thought this would go well with my display.

what is it?

[Shoeless Moe]

Originally Posted by mr2686

How about a couple of Hall of Famers. I often wonder if Red Faber would have been one of the boys and taken money if he would have been healthy enough to play.

Faber would NOT have been in on it with the 8, he was a life long friend of Schalk. They knew each other in the minor league, played with each other for the Sox, and remained lifelong friends after their playing days.

Schalk even was on record saying if Faber was healthy enough to have played in that Series the conspiracy would have failed. The 8 probably wouldn't even had let him know of it, just like they didn't inform Schalk or Collins cuz they knew there was no way they'd go along.

[mr2686]

Interesting. I had never heard that about Faber and Schalk being so close. I've got a couple more Blacksox/Cleansox on my want list for next year so hopefully we can keep this thread going.

[3-2-count]

[thekingofclout]

Boy Anthony, that is sweet photo! You gotta love Weaver's white glove. Just a terrific pick-up.

My best, Jimmy

[Kawika]

Killer postcard, Tony! Lookit all them box seat swells in their straw boaters and Arrow collars getting to hang with Buck. A ripping day at the ballpark in 1913.

[thekingofclout]

Originally Posted by Forever Young

Joe with his trophies: Joe is shown with two trophies he won in 1917, the trophy on the right he won in Boston by throwing a baseball 396 feet, in competition against the best long-distance throwers in the American and National leagues(including Ruth). He broke all records for throwing a baseball the farthest. The trophy on the left is for outbatting Ty Cobb in a critical series in 1917. The picture of Joe was taken while he was traveling back to his native South after the baseball season , he stopped long enough between trains to pose for this picture. These trophies are still in the Jackson family..............

Damn Ben. That's a killer photo...