Autograph sub-forum?

[Leon]

Originally Posted by mschwade

To be honest, I only collect autographs and I've stopped posting as much because of the things you said Leon.

Well, maybe the nature of autograph collecting is that there are more squabbles? I don't collect autographs, though have a few through ordinary sports collecting, and only read some of what goes on, on this board. This comment above is a bit of a conundrum though. If someone only collects autographs and an autograph sub forum wouldn't help, then I am not sure there would be an answer for that.

btw, I am definitely leaning towards giving a separate forum a try...we have been over this before but have never tried one. We could revert back to what we have now, if it didn't work out. This thread is just to make as sure as possible there isn't some unforeseen issue (I can't think of)..

[sayhey24]

Of the first twelve threads on the memorabilia board right now, nine of them are about autographs.

I would agree that memorabilia is being pushed aside and that many memorabilia collectors have given up both posting and trying to sort through all the at times inane autograph threads.

I'm all for a separate sub-forum -- I think you would then see a resurgence of memorabilia threads.

Greg

[Scott Garner]

I agree with the idea of splitting, FWIW.

[mschwade]

Originally Posted by Leon

Well, maybe the nature of autograph collecting is that there are more squabbles? I don't collect autographs, though have a few through ordinary sports collecting, and only read some of what goes on, on this board. This comment above is a bit of a conundrum though. If someone only collects autographs and an autograph sub forum wouldn't help, then I am not sure there would be an answer for that.

It's not me, the autograph collector, you are trying to help though. You're trying to help the memorabilia people that are turned off by the autograph collectors that are pissing on their forum. I think it's a good idea to separate them, and needs to be done, imo. I also thought a third forum where you can ask "Is this good?" was a better idea because that is how the pissing matches start. I've seen people ask if cardboard signs or candy wrappers were good too, so you can combine it for all opinions. Just my .02

[barrysloate]

If I recall we once discussed memorabilia and cards in the same forum, and when we split them up it worked perfectly. I can't imagine having a separate autograph section wouldn't work.

[yanks12025]

Arnt autographs considered memorabilia?

[HBroll]

I agree with what Barry said in both his posts. My vote is to split them up.

[thecatspajamas]

Add my vote to those wanting to split off autographs into something separate.

If keeping up the number of posts is a concern, just make it clear that all sports autos are fair game, or even open it up further to historical and entertainment autographs.

I think once the dust has settled, the number of posts in the Memorabilia forum will come back up naturally.

Leon, why not run a poll for a week or so, and see if the results are as overwhelmingly one-sided as they appear to be from these posts?

[smotan_02]

Originally Posted by thecatspajamas

Leon, why not run a poll for a week or so, and see if the results are as overwhelmingly one-sided as they appear to be from these posts?

Agree

[bender07]

I'm for two new forums. One centered around "Is this good?" and another for autograph discussion/show-off.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by bender07

I'm for two new forums. One centered around "Is this good?" and another for autograph discussion/show-off.

I can't imagine making 2 more forums immediately.....maybe we try one first and see how that goes...and if it is still overwhelming, we discuss at that time. Baby steps forward.......

[Leon]

Originally Posted by thecatspajamas

Add my vote to those wanting to split off autographs into something separate.

If keeping up the number of posts is a concern, just make it clear that all sports autos are fair game, or even open it up further to historical and entertainment autographs.

I think once the dust has settled, the number of posts in the Memorabilia forum will come back up naturally.

Leon, why not run a poll for a week or so, and see if the results are as overwhelmingly one-sided as they appear to be from these posts?

Hey Lance
I appreciate your, and everyone else's, thoughts so far. No need to do a formal poll, imo, this thread is doing fine. It is in fact overwhelming so far...which, as most know, is one of my criteria for change. I really do appreciate all of the feedback. I just hope that if a sub forum is made, the other memorabilia guys/girls will start some new and informative threads. I have also received one private email in support of the new sub forum, among other suggestions .

[bn2cardz]

I don't read a lot of the memorabilia side of the board because of all of the autograph squabbles, but even if they were split I more than likely wouldn't post as I don't have a lot to add, just a lot to learn.

...but while we are at it can we also separate t206 collectors from the rest of the card collectors?

[Bilko G]

Originally Posted by thecatspajamas

If keeping up the number of posts is a concern, just make it clear that all sports autos are fair game, or even open it up further to historical and entertainment autographs.

If the autograph sub-forum is gonna happen i like this idea. Maybe we can start talking about autographs from entertainment, politics, historical figures as well? Might get a bunch of new members too.

Edited to add- I see you guys talking about other Moderators. I was curious, other than Leon, who is the other Moderators at Site 54??

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Bilko G

If the autograph sub-forum is gonna happen i like this idea. Maybe we can start talking about autographs from entertainment, politics, historical figures as well? Might get a bunch of new members too.

Edited to add- I see you guys talking about other Moderators. I was curious, other than Leon, who is the other Moderators at Site 54??

I pick and choose words in describing the forums carefully most times. I used the word on this and the autograph forum "primarily". That way there is some wiggle room for later sports stuff and non sports too. As for the other moderators, Dan Bre.tta, Brian Mc.Queen, and Matt Wei.der are all moderators too. best regards

[slidekellyslide]

Originally Posted by yanks12025

Arnt autographs considered memorabilia?

Couldn't cards be considered memorabilia? There's nothing wrong with separate forums for different categories.

[travrosty]

Originally Posted by Leon

Well, maybe the nature of autograph collecting is that there are more squabbles? I don't collect autographs, though have a few through ordinary sports collecting, and only read some of what goes on, on this board. This comment above is a bit of a conundrum though. If someone only collects autographs and an autograph sub forum wouldn't help, then I am not sure there would be an answer for that.

btw, I am definitely leaning towards giving a separate forum a try...we have been over this before but have never tried one. We could revert back to what we have now, if it didn't work out. This thread is just to make as sure as possible there isn't some unforeseen issue (I can't think of)..

Autographs are much more contentious and prone to arguments because a lot of the time, (a majority of the time) the focus is on authenticity, which leads to arguments, which happens with memorabilia and cards a lot less.

I think if you split them or not, either way would work, it just means one more click, i don;t think people are having a hard time now figuring out if a thread is about an autograph or not, they can just skip it like i skip a t205 or hassan triple threads if i am a t206 collector exclusively.

i can't figure out how people know there are autograph arguments on these threads if they didnt read them? But either way if it is split or not I don't think it's a huge deal. If most people want it split, you should try it.