Digital Millenium Copyright Act

Archive · #1 08-29-2005, 06:55 AM

Posted By: T206Collector

I used to access this forum at work through Google. The phrase "network54 vintage" in the search window would yield this forum as the first available link. But no longer. And at the end of the page reads the following disclaimer:

"In response to a complaint we received under the Digital Millennium Copyright Act, we have removed 3 result(s) from this page. If you wish, you may read the DMCA complaint for these removed results."

My question is did someone issue a DMCA complaint against this forum and, if so, who and why?

Archive · #2 08-29-2005, 08:31 AM

Posted By: Frank Wakefield

This is crap. The Digital Millenium Copyright Act is all about copying songs and movies and such, I just looked at it to make sure. Not some old, uncopyrighted image of a baseball card from a century past. I suggest emailing Google, if that is where you got the message, and asking them to look into what this board does... then they would see that the DMCA does not really apply to the VBC Forum.

Archive · #3 08-29-2005, 09:07 AM

Posted By: david

it would be nice if the link of the complaint actually worked, it seems that makinga false report can open someone up to liabity suits. my guess is that a former disgruntled poster, perhaps one with a fake thorpe or someone who was looking to buy a low grade cobb filed the complaint.

Archive · #4 08-29-2005, 09:10 AM

Posted By: leon

I've got far bigger issues than some bogus BS about our Forum. Plus, our lawyer to non-lawyer ratio is quite high so I doubt we would let this hurt our little family....We have reinforcements ..regards all

Archive · #5 08-29-2005, 10:01 AM

Posted By: Max Weder

Luckily, an image only search at Google still produces this gem, escaping the censorship

http://images.google.ca/images?q=net54%20vintage&hl=en&lr=&sa=N&tab=wi

Max

Archive · #6 08-29-2005, 10:08 AM

Posted By: BlackSoxFan

There is more to this .... it depends on where you work, it sounds to me like you've got a filter on at work that shouldn't apply to this site, but does. It's more a question for your works IT staff than for the legal eagle's...

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Archive · #7 08-29-2005, 10:25 AM

Posted By: Julie

EVERY TRACE OF THE VINTAGE BASEBALL CARD FOIRUM HAS BEEN REMOVED FROM GOOGLE!

Archive · #8 08-29-2005, 10:47 AM

Posted By: identify7

Well I first noticed the problem (which T206Collector described) this morning. What is the liklihood that both of our IT Depts. instituted the same safeguards over the weekend?

Archive · #9 08-29-2005, 10:59 AM

Posted By: BlackSoxFan

Not as unlikely as you think....
it is possible, and once again i'm just talking based on circumstances, that your it departments don't manage their own settings... it would be like a virus scan update if you look at it that way.... who knows.... but it's definitely not a world wide web issue.

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Archive · #10 08-29-2005, 11:07 AM

Posted By: Scott Mosley

I am seeing the same message as well and I work from home as an independent consultant/computer programmer so this does not have anything to do with filters that were implemented at anyones place of work.

It would be interesting to be able to read the complaint that was filed if that link were working. A lot of sites which have links to the forum come up in the results but its appearent that Google has filtered out the forum itself in their results.

Leon, I don't think its a huge deal but it will be interesting to see if you get some type of contact on this through Network 54. I'd be curious to know what the complaint was and from where it originated.

Archive · #11 08-29-2005, 11:17 AM

Posted By: leon

Also, there are a few folks that we have politely asked to leave our party. I guess one of them could complain. I don't really care but will update the board if I see anything.....regards

Archive · #12 08-29-2005, 11:27 AM

Posted By: BlackSoxFan

interesting....we have an auction house run out of my home office as well as it services...after hearing what scott had to say...i'm curious to know what the deal is .... i couldn't imagine that it's your internet provider, but i have no trouble with this site through google or anywhere else..

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Archive · #13 08-29-2005, 11:35 AM

Posted By: bcornell

It's very likely not specific to this forum, but to all of Network54, which hosts 100's of sites. All it would take would be for one of them to violate some DCMA "rule" and have it reported.

Bill

Archive · #14 08-29-2005, 11:38 AM

Posted By: John

Hmmmm “Step one of evil master plan to rule the world!” “Let’s see how those guys like this, that will teach them to mess with #1 from Iowa Haaahaaahaaahaa!!! "Not right now grandma I'm busy leave me alone!!!!!"

Archive · #15 08-29-2005, 11:39 AM

Posted By: Scott Mosley

Theres no trouble with accessing the site itself... Its just that it has appeared to be "removed" from the list of sites that come up when someone does a Google search. An action that Google appears to have taken based upon a complaint from someone or some organization.

Its only an issue for someone that doesn't remember the actual URL to access the forum and wants to use Google to find the board.

They wont find the board itself but there are plenty of other links that do show up that, in turn, have links to the forum so people will still be able to find the forum.

I'm just concerned if Google passes this complaint on to Network54 and they, in turn, start giving our moderator dudes any trouble.

Edited to add that Bill C. makes an excellent point that it could be some other forum on Network54 that has caused this filter to be put in place by Google so probably nothing for our exhaulted moderators to concern themselves with.

Archive · #16 08-29-2005, 11:43 AM

Posted By: BlackSoxFan

check this out

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Archive · #17 08-29-2005, 11:46 AM

Posted By: Frank Wakefield

Our moderator/manager needs to do the google search as above, then scroll to the bottom where this is...

In response to a complaint we received under the Digital Millennium Copyright Act, we have removed 3 result(s) from this page. If you wish, you may read the DMCA complaint for these removed results.

and click on the link to Digital Millennium Copyright Act which will appear in blue. At the bottom of that page is the counter-notification procedure. While doing that, it would be nice to see exactly what the complaint was, the link to it seems nonfunctional.

Putting VBC Forum in your favorites of bookmarks would avoid the need to google it.

Frank.

Archive · #18 08-29-2005, 11:47 AM

Posted By: Hal Lewis

Wonka!!!

Nice rendition of the AJM theme!

Archive · #19 08-29-2005, 11:58 AM

Posted By: Julie

I wish someone could get to the bottom of this.

Archive · #20 08-29-2005, 12:00 PM

Posted By: bcornell

Following Frank's advice about performing the same search, Google cites this as the offending thread: http://www.network54.com/Forum/thread?forumid=71030&messageid=1120549251.

Not from this forum.

Bill

Archive · #21 08-29-2005, 12:04 PM

Posted By: Julie

try to get in touch with you as the owner of the Forum. What a MESS.

Archive · #22 08-29-2005, 12:05 PM

Posted By: bcornell

Julie -

It's got nothing to do with this forum. The mischievous elves running the Internet are entertaining themselves elsewhere.

Bill

Archive · #23 08-29-2005, 12:08 PM

Posted By: Scott Mosley

The link to the offending thread was not working earlier when I and some of the others were trying to go to it.

Glad to see that its not related to our forum!

Archive · #24 08-29-2005, 12:12 PM

Posted By: John

I just knew I shouldn’t have used that picture of Joe O! Sorry guys!

Archive · #25 08-29-2005, 12:15 PM

Posted By: Julie

it was all over the place on Google?

Archive · #26 08-29-2005, 12:23 PM

Posted By: Josh K.

Our site being removed from google is a good thing - just watch as the prices for caramels plummet as there are less new readers to be turned on to vintage collecting

Archive · #27 08-29-2005, 07:42 PM

Posted By: Chris Mc

google( what babies do )The site must be run by them.

Archive · #28 08-30-2005, 02:01 PM

Posted By: T206Collector

on Google. Check it out.... wonder what that was all about.

Archive · #29 08-30-2005, 02:08 PM

Posted By: identify7

Yes, it is back.

Archive · #30 08-30-2005, 02:17 PM

Posted By: Julie

For instance, a reference in "OLd Cardboard" that recommended Net54 was sited, and a couple of other indirect clearing of throat.

Glad it's back.

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