The ultimate trade up

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by EYECOLLECTVINTAGE

It's a lot easier to do what you are saying.. buy and sell and then buy what I want. That's what everyone does. I am trying to only trade. Dealing with only the cards I'm dealt. That is more entertaining and a. Ore difficult task imo

Its more difficult to upgrade a collection by making fair deals at the time and trying to figure out the future market on the card versus getting charity.

If someone wants to downgrade a card for your card then they will want you to come up with cash to make up the difference unless its just charity.

[EYECOLLECTVINTAGE]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

Its more difficult to upgrade a collection by making fair deals at the time and trying to figure out the future market on the card versus getting charity.

If someone wants to downgrade a card for your card then they will want you to come up with cash to make up the difference unless its just charity.

It's not charity. There is no such thing as a "fair trade" sure in a vacuum things can be fair but with the every changing market what's fair today may not be to
Oreos. That being said, I'm not looking for ANY charity. If someone is willing to make a deal they are doing it because they believe it meets their needs too. Obviously you would not be a good partner for what I am trying to achieve. I know if I had a card with 10 and I didn't want it, and someone had a card worth 8... of my card wasn't as liquid, I'd have no problem making a swap knowing I got rid of a tough sell and got what I want. Not trying to convince you. There's no one sayi we have to trade.

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

Its more difficult to upgrade a collection by making fair deals at the time and trying to figure out the future market on the card versus getting charity.

If someone wants to downgrade a card for your card then they will want you to come up with cash to make up the difference unless its just charity.

I think it may be inartfully expressed ITT, but as a dealer I trade for profit all the time. It certainly should be doable. Maybe he shouldn't tell people he wants them to trade down, it comes across as vaguely insulting. Instead just offer the very nice Wajo up for trade and work hard at getting an offer that works for the goal without basically telling people you are out to get the better of them. Obviously when trading with a dealer people expect to lose some value, but I don't rub their noses in it.

[Yoda]

Leon, I know I am a grumpy old man, but this thread is worst case of group mass mental masturbation I have ever seen and does not belong on Net 54. Your call.

[EYECOLLECTVINTAGE]

Originally Posted by Yoda

Leon, I know I am a grumpy old man, but this thread is worst case of group mass mental masturbation I have ever seen and does not belong on Net 54. Your call.

That's just mean lol

[bnorth]

If you complete the trade with Tony I have this offer. I would trade the card pictured for the 4 common T205 cards I PMed you about earlier and the Pete Rose/Ron Santo single signed baseballs from the trade with Tony.

This is the 5th card Beckett ever graded and a great piece of Beckett history. It is from the companies internal test run of 10 cards before any cards were graded for the public. This is super cool/special because it is a card of Jim Beckett III the founder of Beckett. From my understanding 3 of the 10 original cards graded are the Jim Beckett III Topps Stadium of Stars cards.

As far as value, I value it the same as 4 common T205's and 2 single signed baseballs.

[maddux311]

Here is the thread from the CU board that has been mentioned:

https://forums.collectors.com/discus...-1933-goude/p1

He took an entirely different approach, rather than just trading up.

^Also, I am glad to see that BGS graded one of the subgrades accurately(Corners-4).

[pokerplyr80]

Originally Posted by maddux31

Here is the thread from the CU board that has been mentioned:

https://forums.collectors.com/discus...-1933-goude/p1

He took an entirely different approach, rather than just trading up.

^Also, I am glad to see that BGS graded one of the subgrades accurately(Corners-4).

I read through the first couple pages. That route seems like the way to go. Sell the Johnson and use the funds to buy and flip cards until you earn enough profit for a Mantle. Assuming you're able to trade the Johnson for a more obscure or less in demand $1000 card, the chances of repeating that process and working your way up to 5 or 6k seem low at best. Good luck either way.

[KMayUSA6060]

Originally Posted by bnorth

If you complete the trade with Tony I have this offer. I would trade the card pictured for the 4 common T205 cards I PMed you about earlier and the Pete Rose/Ron Santo single signed baseballs from the trade with Tony.

This is the 5th card Beckett ever graded and a great piece of Beckett history. It is from the companies internal test run of 10 cards before any cards were graded for the public. This is super cool/special because it is a card of Jim Beckett III the founder of Beckett. From my understanding 3 of the 10 original cards graded are the Jim Beckett III Topps Stadium of Stars cards.

As far as value, I value it the same as 4 common T205's and 2 single signed baseballs.

This is an error card, to boot.

Van West, OH, doesn't exist. Van Wert, OH, does. How does Beckett, screw up Beckett's card?

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by KMayUSA6060

This is an error card, to boot.

Van West, OH, doesn't exist. Van Wert, OH, does. How does Beckett, screw up Beckett's card?

It is a Topps issued card so Topps screwed up. Cool find, I would have never noticed that.

[Leon]

I disagree. It isn't hurting anyone, I don't think? Why not have some fun? If anyone doesn't like the thread they don't have to click it.

Originally Posted by Yoda

Leon, I know I am a grumpy old man, but this thread is worst case of group mass mental masturbation I have ever seen and does not belong on Net 54. Your call.

[EYECOLLECTVINTAGE]

I have 4 possible trades in the works! Let's see what happens!!

[D.P.Johnson]

Originally Posted by Leon

I disagree. It isn't hurting anyone, I don't think? Why not have some fun? If anyone doesn't like the thread they don't have to click it.

Agree.
These types of threads help educate me about negotiating/trading, and the psychology behind it.
It also helps me learn which members to steer clear of in the future.

[7nohitter]

I think this is a fun, harmless (so far) thread. I like the potential here and I don't understand why anyone needs to post anything negative.

Good luck with your journey!

[martyogelvie]

Good Luck Stephen.
Like i tell the kids on my 12u team. You can't hit the ball if you don't SWING the bat!

[Yoda]

Originally Posted by Yoda

Leon, I know I am a grumpy old man, but this thread is worst case of group mass mental masturbation I have ever seen and does not belong on Net 54. Your call.

After finally getting well-needed rest, I reread this threat and realized that I sounded like the 'Grinch that Stole Xmas.' I think the idea of a Trade Up adventure is terrific, particular for a vison quest card like a T'52 Mantle. But I guess I was thinking that the main board should be reserved for more weighty hobby issues. God knows in a new post-Mastro era we have enough.
Leon, would it be possible to establish a trade link for T/U next to B/S/T?
John

[ullmandds]

i wish you the best in your endeavor...I kinda remember some newbie...eager beaver trying to do the same for a wagner...that obviously did not happen!!!!

best of luck to you though!

[EYECOLLECTVINTAGE]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

i wish you the best in your endeavor...I kinda remember some newbie...eager beaver trying to do the same for a wagner...that obviously did not happen!!!!

best of luck to you though!

Thanks a lot!

[EYECOLLECTVINTAGE]

Ok here is what I have to work with....


T206 Bender, no trees, psa 4 HOF
T206 McGraw, at hip, psa 3 HOF SOLD
T206 McGraw, port w/cap psa 2 HOF SOLD
T206 McGraw, finger air, psa2 HOF
T206 Kelly, psa3 HOF
T206 Chase, pink, psa3 SOLD
T206 Pelty, vert, psa 4.5
T206 McEvlveen, bvg 4
kicker - a very nice raw NM range 62 topps Mays AS card


I will take scans as soon as they come in tomorrow.

Who wants to make a trade for the remaining cards? They are for sale too just come with a strong offer. Once these are gone I will turn them into 1 card and we will start over again! Let's go!

[slidekellyslide]

Originally Posted by EYECOLLECTVINTAGE

Ok here is what I have to work with....


T206 Bender, no trees, psa 4 HOF
T206 McGraw, at hip, psa 3 HOF SOLD
T206 McGraw, port w/cap psa 2 HOF SOLD
T206 McGraw, finger air, psa2 HOF
T206 Kelly, psa3 HOF
T206 Chase, pink, psa3 SOLD
T206 Pelty, vert, psa 4.5
T206 McEvlveen, bvg 4
kicker - a very nice raw NM range 62 topps Mays AS card


I will take scans as soon as they come in tomorrow.

Who wants to make a trade for the remaining cards? They are for sale too just come with a strong offer. Once these are gone I will turn them into 1 card and we will start over again! Let's go!

Good luck Stephen, looks like you are on your way. I'm rooting for you and this should be fun to watch.