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Posted By: Dan Koteles

"Sloates & Sloths"....the two toed dealers !

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Posted By: barrysloate

Dan you're not the first to use Sloth as a nickname for Sloate. I've been called that one before.

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Posted By: Dan Koteles

I actually wasnt calling you anything at all, I may need you sometime . Sorta figuring mine had a little more charm then a "red light" district tag on you .Cheers Barry and Merry Xmas !

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Posted By: barrysloate

A happy holiday to you too...and to everyone on the board for that matter!

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Posted By: Jeff Lichtman

Barry, cut the good cheer out -- I require a steak. When?

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Posted By: Lee Behrens

Why would anyone looking at this board for the first time or have been lurking decided to participate when there are questions such as these and others that Peter C. thinks he is contributing to the board? His posts give absolutely zero creditability to this board. He even points out himself that he really has nothing to offer. IF this is evolution we are definately going on devolving.

Leon, I also can not believe that you think his idea even needs tweaking to work. Coming from a businessman I am amazed you even stand behind the thought. The space the computers take up would not offset the pop and candybar they MIGHT purchase.

A thought just came to me, Peter C. works for Progressive.

Al, Thanks for giving another clear view as to why Peter C. is a troll.

Lee

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Posted By: MVSNYC

jeff- let's make that steak happen in the next 2 weeks or so...before the holidays...?

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Posted By: barrysloate

Not Morton's Jeff, that was subpar. Peter Luger's makes them look really really bad. But how do we get a contingent into Brooklyn?

How about Sushi?

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Posted By: Jeff Lichtman

Mike, yes, definitely. I've been stuck in during the week pretty much for the past month and badly require a steak. If we tell Brian that Mr. Mint has come across that special T206 Jackson with a Hindu back we may be able to entice him to fly north for the dinner.

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Posted By: MVSNYC

jeff- if brian comes north, i OWE him a fat steak, so his dinner is on me! let's try to get something on the books for next week or the following week...

barry/joe/wonka/rob/scott...etc...whada say fellas? let's do the email thing tomorrow...



how 'bout those NY Football Giants?!

Jets did pretty good too!

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Posted By: Jeff Lichtman

I think Wonka is MIA. As for Brian, I'd pay for his steak as well. People from the south don't appreciate what a dearth of college basketball fans there is in NYC. Probably the main thing I miss about NC after Duke basketball, Hector's and Waffle House.

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Posted By: barrysloate

I didn't think the Giants had a chance when they were down 16-7. I was very impressed with the 4th quarter.

I know Jay Miller wants to join us if we have dinner in NYC. I don't have his email handy- Jay, are you reading this?

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Posted By: Jeff Lichtman

Eli was about to get ridden out of town on a rail after that INT in the endzone. Amazing comeback. I was shocked that Coughlin didn't take a knee a few times to run out the clock when they had first and goal at the one; it could have cost them the game at the end. He's got to go.

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Posted By: Al Simeone

Thanks Lee,
My last thought on this is I guess in this day and age of a BRICK AND MORTAR store, which is trying to struggle with buying product for the store,pay rent,heat, electricity, insurance etc,etc let alone trying to get enough customers to come in in the first place,now I guess he should go out and buy lets say 10 computers, $2000 each, work stations 250 each, re wire for the computers, free up all that space so people can sit down drink coffee they bought at the 7-11 down the street and brought into your new store to buy nothing and just use your new computers to surf the web! Peter you said you were going to stop being a lawyer and do something else at one point, I truely hope you dont because you would bankrupt in a matter of months.

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Posted By: Al Simeone

Jeff,
I think all you need to get out of the city and come to Ct. Im 40 minutes from you and if you want a Good steak come to Bennetts Steak House. Its Bennett Salvatores Place.

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Posted By: barrysloate

Jeff- I was thinking about that too, but how can scoring a touchdown be the wrong play? It was a tough call, and almost backfired.

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Posted By: Ted Zanidakis

Can we expect to hear you on Imus' radio show in the morning ?

What happened to Curtis Slewa's radio gig ?

And, if you guys persuade Brian Weisner to come North, I'll make an extra effort to make the 2 1/2 hr trip to NYC.

TED Z

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Posted By: Jeff Lichtman

Ted, I just finished a month doing the morning show with Sliwa and nearly lost my mind from lack of sleep. The show was cancelled in favor of Imus's show which starts tomorrow -- even though we climbed to #3 in NY behind an all news station (WINS) and some spanish FM music show. I think my radio career is on hiatus for a while as I need to start working on my day job with a bit more sleep behind me.

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Posted By: Joe D.

count me in for a NYC dinner.

someone get it going!

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Posted By: John

I am not so sure peter (or anyone) should have to prove they belong here by posting scans of their cards. Is this a pissing contest or a message board devoted to love of the hobby? If someone reads the board and contributes, that should be enough- regardless of whether they own a pre-war card or not. After all, today’s person who may not have the cash for a huge pre-war collection might come to this board out of curiosity- how we treat the person may determine whether he/she remains interested in pre-war or the hobby in general.

I am also puzzled as to why people feel the need to constantly attack peter. If a post does not interest you, do not reply. I do that quite often here and on other message boards. If you do not find anything kind to say to someone, do not say anything. Name calling and sexist jokes are what kids (and adults who never grew up?) do on playgrounds. The idealist in me likes to think adults are emotionally mature enough to realize that just b/c you can hurl an insult at what you think is an ‘easy target’ doesn’t mean you should hurl the insult. It is a bit hypocritical to call someone a troll/useless when most of the people doing that are the ones constantly hurling insults @ peter. Mutual trollage perhaps? I wonder how those who hurl insults think THEIR posts reflect on Net54? Would you feel inclined to join Net54 today if you saw MANY people insulting someone for what appears to be no other reason than 'bc they have nothing better to do'?

As for the business idea, some shops here (few remain and I live in a LARGE urban area) do offer free wifi. Not quite the same as peter’s kiosk idea, but many people bring their laptops in and check out prices before buying from the shop owners. Other shops have Playstations and huge tvs- it seems to draw crowds, but I’m not sure it draws many buyers.

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Posted By: Jeff

Peter - I agree, your posts are held to a different standard. However, you've brought this upon yourself through a high volume of O/T and sometimes bizarre posts. I hear similar complaints from employees in my office who have low scores on their quality audits - but the reason I look at their work more closely is because they've proven that they can't meet the standards that have been established. You've made your own bed here.

John - using your logic, people should be allowed to post whatever they want on this board. After all, I could choose to simply ignore their posts, right? Of course, the board would likely deteriorate relatively quickly and it would become so difficult to wade through all the crap than many valuable contributors would stop participating, and that would be a loss to us all.

As for the idea that started this mess, consider all the related problems.... no matter how good your filtering software is, some idiot will end up accessing porn, a virus, or both, on your computers. Then you get to deal with irate parents (minors will use your computers) or damaged computers. Don't think it will happen? Ever seen what people look at on the terminals at the library? I have, and it's not pretty. Putting internet terminals in your store is an OK idea if you want to have an internet cafe/card store. However, I don't believe that you will have the same customers use both sides of the business.

Jeff

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Posted By: peter chao

John,

Thanks for helping me out. I do believe that there are people that don't post because they are simply afraid of ridicule.

Barry,

Also if you are afraid of ridicule, it's a bad idea to be a trial attorney. Normally, your opposition will be just as sharp as you are and he will say your position sucks. Also, there will be times the Judge will be just as rude.

I would rather not be banned. But on the other hand I have been fairly successful in life and would not judge myself based on people's opinion of me on this Board.

Leon,

There's no need to warn me. I'll try to comply. I'm sure that if I met people at the National, we would be drinking buddies rather quickly. I'm not that different just a little independent.

Peter C.

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Posted By: Lee Behrens

John,

Peter has contributed nothing to the boards main focus. He is throwing out random thoughts in the baseball field.

Peter,

Once again, I plead and beg and complement anyone on your side and tell Leon you will "TRY" to conform. How many times do we have to hear this before you actually do conform.

For all that defend him, WHY? He admits he is doing everything he is accused of.

As far as ignoring him, I let this post get to 98 before I responded and do not respond to many of them but with his constant idiotic behavior others want to respond so why can't I?

Lee

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Posted By: Anonymous

Peter, it's exactly because I don't want to be ridiculed that I am a good trial attorney. The lawyers that don't mind the abuse are usually abused on a daily basis -- which is exactly what they deserve.

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Posted By: peter chao

Lee,

For some people (like me for instance) it's not easy for me to be just a follower. It is not in my nature. My english professor at Berkeley didn't think I could make it as an attorney. I ignored him. It's in my nature to be stubborn and independent.

Peter C.

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Posted By: John

Personally, I like random thoughts now and then, so do not get all worked up over peter’s posts. life is too short for that. I do not think people should be able to post anything- ex., I would hope people here would have enough sense not to post OMG, did u see what happened on American Idol (or whatever show’s hot today- don’t watch much TV). If someone posts something related to the hobby (business ideas for example- even if they may not succeed), that is okay w/me. I know when I first came to this board (years and years before I actually registered), I did not have much pre war knowledge (and sadly, no scans to prove my worth). However, the board made me feel welcome when I eventually posted an intro and I have learned quite a lot, even though I mainly lurk. Even when I do not agree w/someone- or just do not have an interest in their particular post- I always try to learn something.

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Posted By: peter chao

John,

Thanks for the support. At first I was skeptical, but apparently self-policing works. Look at the front page, there's more posts regarding pre-war vintage cards than normal.

Thanks, guys.

Peter C.

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Posted By: shane leonard

Peter,
Your questions are effing rediculous. In one of your posts you mention that a dealer would be trying to screw you if he was afraid to let you know what the market is on ebay by not providing computer access to his clients. Are you kidding me? By providing a computer in your store, you're allowing all the deadbeat collectors to come into your store, like yourself, and sit there for five hours while your significant other goes shopping. To provide a $4 drink to your clients is fine if they have the money for it. Most of your clients would expect you to give you the drink for free because they opened eight packs of 2007 Topps packages.

Your posts are absolutely the stupidest posts anyone could imagine. The pure economics of your responses to this thread shows me why you are not a business man.

Leon, please block him!
Shane

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Posted By: shane leonard

John,
I would prefer to hear about how the "Wiggles" are doing at Disney World than to suffer through the thoughtless posts of Peter.

shane

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Posted By: JK

Than why open them up to read at all?

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Posted By: Joe D.

before the 'defenders' come out to object to those latest posts.


look at who bumped this thread back to the top.... and ask yourself if that person is getting exactly what he wants -- attention --.


something to think about.

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Posted By: JK

Im not defending anyone in this post - just curious why anyone would open this tread up, let alone post twice, if they would "prefer to hear about how the "Wiggles" are doing at Disney World than to suffer through the thoughtless posts of Peter."

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Posted By: Joe D.

to be clear.... I wasn't referring to you -
I know the time on my post might have looked that way.

but when I began writing my post - your post wasn't there.


when I finally hit the respond button, your post was there before mine.


I definitely did not intend to direct it at you or anyone else in particular.

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Posted By: Al Simeone

Joe D.
You hit it right on the head. Peter needs Attention.
JK
Give us a break you defend him all the time. The Guys a clown .Knows nothing about vintage cards,but loves to push peoples buttons.
Leon PLEASE its time now this post has been beat to death and now really serves no purpose other than giving Peter his wish to reach 200 posts. Time to see the nice little lock pop up!!

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Posted By: JK

Gotcha - thanks for the clarification.

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Posted By: JK

Al - youre wrong. I have only defended Peter when post was on topic and had some merit. That is not the case here. I havent posted one item in support of this thread.

You, on the other hand, seem to get off on of acting like a high school bully toward Peter regardless of whether its merited or not. Why is that.

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Posted By: Al Simeone

JK,
I dont know where you have been for the last 4 months or so but if you really need to ask me that question then you havnt been reading all of his gems. If you notice I never comment on his posts when they are ON TOPIC. But come on JK give me a break! Most of his posts border on stupidity!
Bully? Far from it. Even Peter will tell you that. He doesnt consider me one of the KEY STONE COPS . You yourself posted up here talking about basketball and chicken and cheese biscuits. What does that have to do with this post? Answer nothing. And thats the point if Peter wants to Yammer about topics like this there are plenty of other places to get attention. And as long as he continues to do this MANY of us will continue to do what we do. Just like you do what you want to do.

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Posted By: JK

Al,

I agree - I intentionally helped others in their effort to hijack this thread by talking about chicken biscuits and Carolina basketball. I did so, however, while managing not to say one derogatory thing about Peter personally. I'd like to think that is how most adults would handle problems that they face.

edited to add an "s" to problems.

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Posted By: Al Simeone

JK,
Well I guess Im not one of those adults.

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Posted By: Brian Weisner

Hi Michael, Jeff, and JK, thanks for the kind words... I would love to make it to dinner this month, but my schedule won't allow it. I will promise to see you guys at the National, and I will make it to the "city" sometime in 2008. Be well to all Brian


PS Michael, you don't owe me anything.... Friends enjoy each others company, and don't worry too much about the tab... be well my friend. Brian

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Posted By: MVSNYC

brian- fair enough...thanks!

looking forward to your '08 trip up to NYC...we'll take care of you

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Posted By: peter chao

Al S.,

You are a difficult guy to please, would you be happier if I put you on the list of Keystone Cops?

Peter C.

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Posted By: leon

I was really hoping you wouldn't bump this again.....enough is enough....