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Old 06-29-2020, 03:00 PM
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Default My personal T206 subset...

I realize some folks collect the entire set, a team, portraits, backs, etc. As a newbie, I've wondered the best way for me to really get going (besides the pick up here and there of a card). I think I found my gateway. Hear me out (I'm so excited to type this up)...,,

In 1911 and 1912 the Detroit Tigers spent their spring training in my hometown in Louisiana. The ballpark is no longer there, it's now an empty field. I drove by it this weekend. So, my thought is, cross reference the roster of that 1911 team to a list of T206 subjects, and that will be my jump off point. T206 cards of players that played in my hometown. From what I have read so far, Ty Cobb did not travel to these Spring Training games, but I plan on digging up some box scores and may have to go to the local papers for that if they are available to dig deeper. So far, just a cursory check it puts me at 16 cards that are Detroit Tiger players when the cards were issued. There could be some players on the 1911 squad that were on t206s on a different team when issued.

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Old 06-29-2020, 04:27 PM
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That's a cool idea...there's really no wrong way to collect T206's!

Good luck!
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Old 06-29-2020, 05:29 PM
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Thanks for the comments Tom. I'm excited about it. I'll update this thread as my research allows!
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Old 06-29-2020, 07:19 PM
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Default T207 Tigers

Hi Jamie,
Good idea for a collection! I grew up near Detroit, so I've collected a lot of Tiger players. The T207 set was issued in 1912. It contains a few Tiger players who are not in T206: Bauman, Covington, Drake, Gainor, Lively and Works. Those guys are likely to be on your spring training rosters once you've located them.

The T206 set was based on players from 1908-09. So quite a few players were different on the rosters by 1911-1912. I've enjoyed collecting T206's and T207's.

Here's an article I found about the 1914 Tigers Spring Training in Mississippi:

http://nighttraintodetroit.com/2014/...100-years-ago/
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Old 06-29-2020, 07:40 PM
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Always fun to see all the different angles to collecting T206. I came across this excerpt from a book to seems to document Ty Cobb travelling to Louisiana in March of 1911 with his family for spring training:

https://books.google.com/books?id=MP...isiana&f=false

Good luck with your T206 quest!

Brian
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Old 06-29-2020, 07:48 PM
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That is a nice way to collect, like said above there is no wrong way.

I done the local thing also. As part of a collection I donated to a local museum one of the cards was a T206 Bill Shipke. He played for and managed the local small town team in 1920.
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Old 06-29-2020, 08:35 PM
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thanks for the nice words! and brian thank you!
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Old 06-29-2020, 08:36 PM
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Ron thats good info! thanks!
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Old 06-30-2020, 08:31 PM
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OK, so here is what I have so far:

1911 Detroit Tigers Roster, with an "X" next to the players I think have a T206.

Paddy Baumann
Donie Bush-X
Joe Casey
Pug Cavet
Ty Cobb -X (4 cards)
Tex Covington
Sam Crawford -X (2 poses)
Jim Delahanty
Bill Donovan-X (2 poses)
Delos Drake
Del Gainer
Davy Jones-X
Ed Lafitte
Chick Lathers
Jack Lively
Clarence Mitchell
George Moriarty-X
George Mullin-X (2 poses)

Jack Ness
Charley O'Leary-X (2 poses)
Biff Schaller
Boss Schmidt-X (2 poses)
Oscar Stanage-X

Ed Summers
Wiley Taylor
Guy Tutwiler
Ed Willett-X (2 poses)
Squanto Wilson
Ralph Works

For a total of 20 cards.
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Old 06-30-2020, 09:54 PM
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OK, so here is what I have so far:

1911 Detroit Tigers Roster, with an "X" next to the players I think have a T206.

Paddy Baumann
Donie Bush-X
Joe Casey
Pug Cavet
Ty Cobb -X (4 cards)
Tex Covington
Sam Crawford -X (2 poses)
Jim Delahanty
Bill Donovan-X (2 poses)
Delos Drake
Del Gainer
Davy Jones-X
Ed Lafitte
Chick Lathers
Jack Lively
Clarence Mitchell
George Moriarty-X
George Mullin-X (2 poses)

Jack Ness
Charley O'Leary-X (2 poses)
Biff Schaller
Boss Schmidt-X (2 poses)
Oscar Stanage-X

Ed Summers
Wiley Taylor
Guy Tutwiler
Ed Willett-X (2 poses)
Squanto Wilson
Ralph Works

For a total of 20 cards.
Ed Summers has a card in the Monster
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Old 06-30-2020, 10:09 PM
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Jeff, thank you. One I missed!
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Old 06-30-2020, 10:10 PM
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As mentioned, Ed Summers has a T206 card, which is shown below.

Jim Delahanty has a T206 card, designating him with Washington.

And Jim Delehanty also has a T205 card, showing him with the Tigers.

So with the T207 cards Ron mentioned, you can have a nice type collection of the three most prominent tobacco issues of the era as well, and a good chunk of the Tigers 1911 roster.

Brian (cards not mine)
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Old 07-01-2020, 09:38 AM
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Brian, thank you! So updated:



1911 Detroit Tigers Roster, with an "X" next to the players I think have a T206.

Paddy Baumann-T207
Donie Bush-X
Joe Casey
Pug Cavet
Ty Cobb -X (4 cards)
Tex Covington-T207
Sam Crawford -X (2 poses)
Jim Delahanty-X (with Washington), T205 with Tigers
Bill Donovan-X (2 poses)
Delos Drake-T207
Del Gainer-T207

Davy Jones-X
Ed Lafitte
Chick Lathers
Jack Lively-T207
Clarence Mitchell
George Moriarty-X
George Mullin-X (2 poses)

Jack Ness
Charley O'Leary-X (2 poses)
Biff Schaller
Boss Schmidt-X (2 poses)
Oscar Stanage-X
Ed Summers-X

Wiley Taylor
Guy Tutwiler
Ed Willett-X (2 poses)
Squanto Wilson
Ralph Works-T207

For a total of 22 T206 cards, 6 T207, and 1 T205.
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Old 07-01-2020, 02:30 PM
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I found 3 more of the Tigers players on your list that have baseball cards issued:

Chick Lathers - 1911 M116 Sporting Life (team designation Tigers)

Clarence Mitchell - E120 American Caramel, W573, E210 York Caramels, E135 Collins-McCarthy and others

Biff Schaller - 1913 through 1917 Zeenut, 1920 Zeenut

Brian

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Old 07-02-2020, 06:30 AM
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Brian once again-thanks!Im gonna go broke! lol
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