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Old 05-14-2013, 04:04 AM
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Gee isn't that identical paper loss on the back of each card convenient? This seller also has a lot of 54 Dan Dee cards with the same paper loss. He also has a lot of Fan Craze but I don't know enough about THEM to confirm their being bogus. I have reported the Mecca and the Dan Dee.

Here is a link to the lot
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1911-T201-Me...item4d0c5e3778

Here is a link to an actual reprint for sale as a reprint

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1911-Mecca-D...item48546d9e68

Here is a lot of reprint Dan Dees

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1954-DAN-DEE...item2c5d6d4006

Here is the lot with the "reprint" obscured by paper loss.


http://www.ebay.com/itm/1954-Dan-Dee...item35c764a687

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Old 05-14-2013, 07:09 AM
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Gee isn't that identical paper loss on the back of each card convenient? This seller also has a lot of 54 Dan Dee cards with the same paper loss. He also has a lot of Fan Craze but I don't know enough about THEM to confirm their being bogus. I have reported the Mecca and the Dan Dee.

Here is a link to the lot
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1911-T201-Me...item4d0c5e3778

Here is a link to an actual reprint for sale as a reprint

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1911-Mecca-D...item48546d9e68

Here is a lot of reprint Dan Dees

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1954-DAN-DEE...item2c5d6d4006

Here is the lot with the "reprint" obscured by paper loss.


http://www.ebay.com/itm/1954-Dan-Dee...item35c764a687

Thanks for the heads up. Isn't it amazing how the paper loss on cards happens an unusual amount of times right where the word "reprint" would have been? What a coincidence!!
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Old 05-14-2013, 07:18 AM
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Thanks for the heads up. Isn't it amazing how the paper loss on cards happens an unusual amount of times right where the word "reprint" would have been? What a coincidence!!
Leon, Have you an opinion on the Fan Craze lot? I don't know that issue enough to declare them bogus as well.
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The Fan Craze are fake too. The player images are too dark and muddy looking. Still, a 97% seller feedback rating has got to boost confidence

EDITED to add: The artificial aging on the Fan Craze backs is amateurish also. I haven't collected this set in more than ten years but I don't recall ever seeing a Fan Craze card with that type and extent of back "wear".
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Old 05-14-2013, 08:41 AM
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The Fan Craze are fake too. The player images are too dark and muddy looking. Still, a 97% seller feedback rating has got to boost confidence

EDITED to add: The artificial aging on the Fan Craze backs is amateurish also. I haven't collected this set in more than ten years but I don't recall ever seeing a Fan Craze card with that type and extent of back "wear".
Todd, Thaks for chiming in. I thought they were sham also but wan't sure. I reported the Mecca and the Dan-Dee before I left the house this morning. I cannot access eBay here at work. If you would be so kind, please report the Fan Craze as bogus.....
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Leon, Have you an opinion on the Fan Craze lot? I don't know that issue enough to declare them bogus as well.
As Todd said, bad fakes. Not even good ones. They should be crisp pictures on the cards. And the backs should be bright, like this one.

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Larry Fritsch produced the Fan Craze reprint set about 10-15 years ago, no?

"First" produced, we should say -- still available here:
http://www.fritschcards.com/sunshop/..._detail&p=1443
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The Fan Crazes are definitely fakes shown in the far right image below. The corners are too rounded and they all seem to have excessive wear in the lower left area of the card where the word reprint might appear.

The images on the left show you an actual reprint that is currently for sale on eBay. In this case the seller discloses that its a reprint. Lower left corner says "REPRINT". The corners are more rounded than the authentic ones that are shown in the middle.
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thanks guys for the postings! apparently you saved me $ & some headaches!
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Mike, excellent catch on these T201s. It's amazing to me how many fakes get sold on ebay.
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thanks guys for the postings! apparently you saved me $ & some headaches!
That's why we take the time to post the bogus listings. Us Net 54-ers gotta watch out for each other.
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Mike, excellent catch on these T201s. It's amazing to me how many fakes get sold on ebay.
Thanks Sean....I wonder what percentage we "out", though.....
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Default T201's

He knew they were fake. I sent him a message telling him what to look for and I sent him a link to this thread. His response was "If you don't like it then don't bid.

I'm hoping the winning bidder is one of us and hangs the seller out to dry.
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Ugh....so much for reporting the lot. It still sold for $96 +$6....for reprints. Someone is going to be pissed.....
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For what it's worth I went through and reported each of his vintage lots to ebay. I let them know he is altering the card backs to remove the word reprint. Maybe if we all take time to report the listings we can prevent someone else from getting ripped off.

I am really thankful for all the honest folks we have here at Net54 who look out for one another. Thanks!
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This seller still has several lots of aged reprints up that he is selling as originals. I have reported all of them to ebay with clear explanations on how to see they are reprints and they have done nothing.
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This seller still has several lots of aged reprints up that he is selling as originals. I have reported all of them to ebay with clear explanations on how to see they are reprints and they have done nothing.
I'd reported them as well after seeing the OP. Sad to see little is being done by Ebay.
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Default Dan Dee's

The Dan Dee auction ended a few minutes ago and he already got a neg for them.

He's down to 95%. How long will ebay let him sell?
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