Curious if anyone has had cards graded since the alteration/PWCC debacle

[111gecko]

Anyone else received any grades over the past couple of weeks when this all came out to the level it is now? We submitted multiple orders on cards we know for a fact were purchased by the original owners ranging from 1953-1957. Very nice cards..7s-8s. Everything came back evidence of trimming.

40 years of collecting and thousands of cards graded....I know when a card has been trimmed. Is it possible that this is affecting graders?...any directives from management?

Sure hope a few bad apples don't have that much influence?.......

[ullmandds]

Originally Posted by 111gecko

Anyone else received any grades over the past couple of weeks when this all came out to the level it is now? We submitted multiple orders on cards we know for a fact were purchased by the original owners ranging from 1953-1957. Very nice cards..7s-8s. Everything came back evidence of trimming.

40 years of collecting and thousands of cards graded....I know when a card has been trimmed. Is it possible that this is affecting graders?...any directives from management?

Sure hope a few bad apples don't have that much influence?.......

that sucks! can you show some examples?

[bobbyw8469]

Originally Posted by 111gecko

Anyone else received any grades over the past couple of weeks when this all came out to the level it is now? We submitted multiple orders on cards we know for a fact were purchased by the original owners ranging from 1953-1957. Very nice cards..7s-8s. Everything came back evidence of trimming.

40 years of collecting and thousands of cards graded....I know when a card has been trimmed. Is it possible that this is affecting graders?...any directives from management?

Sure hope a few bad apples don't have that much influence?.......

I'm afraid this may be the downfall due to the scammer getting everything to pass. Now legitimate cards will not be graded.

[Rhotchkiss]

I agree with Pete- do you mind posting some scans?

[perezfan]

Yes, please post. PSA needs to be done.

[111gecko]

The grades (EOT) posted today. I will post scans when they get back to me next week....so frustrating...

[Peter_Spaeth]

Cues Roy Orbison
Just runnin' scared.

[Kenny Cole]

I was an EMT in college while I was working my way through school. Long ago.
circa 1982-83. This is reminding me of that. You kind of steeled yourself for the awful shit you were going to see and moved on after was done. I kind of figured out a way to live with it then. Maybe not so much now. This is bullshit.

[swarmee]

Did you ask for a full refund?

And BTW, did you happen to submit these in toploaders with tape at the top? The only other time I remember hearing something like this is when someone posted on the PSA/CU board that their entire 100 card order (of varied sets/players) came back ?AUTHCTY (aka fake) because they submitted them in toploaders and taped the tops. I am sure that thread no longer exists.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Kenny Cole

I was an EMT in college while I was working my way through school. Long ago.
circa 1982-83. This is reminding me of that. You kind of steeled yourself for the awful shit you were going to see and moved on after was done. I kind of figured out a way to live with it then. Maybe not so much now. This is bullshit.

I knew it was bad, but given that what we're now seeing is just relatively recent examples of one doctor's work, and extrapolating from that to what I now think must be out there both from him and the many others who have done this for decades, it's effing ridiculous.

At some point PSA, in my opinion, has to address this. It's going to get beyond message boards if it hasn't already. And I really don't know what they can say, to be honest.

Not long ago given marketplace trends I was regretting a bit that some of my better cards are in SGC holders. I feel OK about that right now.

[samosa4u]

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469

I'm afraid this may be the downfall due to the scammer getting everything to pass. Now legitimate cards will not be graded.

This is what I fear also. The graders are so spooked out by all of this. Now if they see any card that gives them even the slightest doubt, they will reject it.

I have about fifty cards currently at PSA and some of them are pretty expensive. If they get rejected, I am seriously going to beat Gary Moser over his head with a baseball bat!

[Fuddjcal]

Originally Posted by 111gecko

Anyone else received any grades over the past couple of weeks when this all came out to the level it is now? We submitted multiple orders on cards we know for a fact were purchased by the original owners ranging from 1953-1957. Very nice cards..7s-8s. Everything came back evidence of trimming.

40 years of collecting and thousands of cards graded....I know when a card has been trimmed. Is it possible that this is affecting graders?...any directives from management?

Sure hope a few bad apples don't have that much influence?.......

That sucks...Give them to Brent Mastro and he'll get them graded for you I'm sure.

[kateighty]

Originally Posted by 111gecko

Anyone else received any grades over the past couple of weeks when this all came out to the level it is now? We submitted multiple orders on cards we know for a fact were purchased by the original owners ranging from 1953-1957. Very nice cards..7s-8s. Everything came back evidence of trimming.

40 years of collecting and thousands of cards graded....I know when a card has been trimmed. Is it possible that this is affecting graders?...any directives from management?

Sure hope a few bad apples don't have that much influence?.......

I've been on the fence about submitting cards while also wondering how their day to day operations have been impacted. So thanks for sharing your experience. Definitely good to know!