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Old 09-16-2015, 02:30 PM
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Default Biggest? Fraud Case Ever in Ebay Sports History

Even though this story is about autographs it is in the sports hobby and it is ebay. Both of which most of us encounter daily...

http://www.wfmj.com/story/29910070/2...-in-the-valley


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Old 09-16-2015, 03:06 PM
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Ohio? I'm shocked!
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They easily could prosecute 90%+ of the autograph sellers on Ebay.

It's a shame that 25,000 people have to be milked out of 2 million before someone takes any care or notice.
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Meh. Albeit large volume, that's only 80 bucks/victim. Now if those guys had conspired to trim one of the world's rarest cards and encapsulate it as an 8 instead of the A it deserved, that would be some serious s*&$.
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They've been placed on probation and " they're co-operating " -- Note the last names . Witness protection program , anyone ?
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Leon, the other site that I contribute to has been exposing that group for years.

They must have used dozens of Ebay names.

Ryan, the author of the below thread, has been posting threads on them for years.


http://live.autographmagazine.com/fo...ring-goes-down
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Meh. Albeit large volume, that's only 80 bucks/victim. Now if those guys had conspired to trim one of the world's rarest cards and encapsulate it as an 8 instead of the A it deserved, that would be some serious s*&$.
That's probably what made it work for so long. An $80 autographed card or ball with a certificate of authenticity wouldn't get much scrutiny from an average collector or someone buying a gift off of ebay. And I doubt many people were sending them off to PSA to get them re-certified.
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I'll bet Coaches Corner is into collectors for way more than 2 million dollars. When is it their turn?
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I'll bet Coaches Corner is into collectors for way more than 2 million dollars. When is it their turn?
They will just rat out everybody they know and get a slap on the wrist anyway so who cares.

EDIT It would be different if those POS actually got what they deserve.

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That should read "Youngstown, Ohio? I'm shocked!".

We keep it classy in Columbus




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I went to high school (Austintown) with one of the kids arrested. Youngstown always stays classy......and that's why I now live in Columbus.
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That's probably what made it work for so long. An $80 autographed card or ball with a certificate of authenticity wouldn't get much scrutiny from an average collector or someone buying a gift off of ebay. And I doubt many people were sending them off to PSA to get them re-certified.
Agreed. Which is why if I ever decide to start counterfeiting money, it'll the five dollar bill, all day long.
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I went to high school (Austintown) with one of the kids arrested. Youngstown always stays classy......and that's why I now live in Columbus.
Elaborate on this. Speak to the character of the one you know.
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That should read "Youngstown, Ohio? I'm shocked!".

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I'm just glad that Bo Pelini returned to Youngstown.
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well, that's 4 less ppl that will try and sell us phony products...
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