Vassar Sweater

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Posted By: Darren

I haven't seen many of these for sale. Post'em if you got'em.

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Posted By: T206Collector

...when he opened up his women's college in 1861.



But if anyone stumbles across any 19th Century trade cards depicting the old female baseball team, the Vassar Resolutes -- shown in the Ken Burns documentary -- please let me know.

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Posted By: dan mckee

I have Walter Johnson and I sold the only known Cobb to Terry Knouse a few years ago.

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Posted By: Dan Bretta

Excuse my ignorance here, but what exactly are we talking about here?

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Posted By: leon

They are a very scarce premium sized (about 4 x 6) issue of baseball cards on thinner stock, from circa 1912. There are only approx. 5 different players known. They picture baseball players (stars of the day) in a Vassar Sweater. regards

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Posted By: Dan Bretta

Okay, thanks Leon...not sure I've seen or heard of them before. For a while there I was wondering if Darren was asking for pics of Chicks in sweaters.

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Posted By: T206Collector

...but those of us around Poughkeepsie, NY who hear "Vassar Sweaters" think of the college, not the rare card.



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Posted By: davidcycleback

Interesting, as Vassar was a female-only college. I doubt many guys would have worn a Vassar sweater in public, unless they wanted to needled. I can imagine it being the basis for a Leave it To Beaver episode, with June forcing Beaver to wear a Vassar sweater to school. "But mom."

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Posted By: Darren

I've only seen the Cobb subject. Would be interested in seeing others.....including women in sweaters:)

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Posted By: dan mckee

I will try to scan mine in the next few days, I think they are about 8" tall instead of 6" but I haven't looked at it in awhile. Just remember that it is worthless since it is not graded. Dan.

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Posted By: leon

I knew some of the info I quoted above but took other from the 2007 SCD big book. There is a picture of one in that book. Also, as Dan said, I think these are larger than the book says. I think they are on thin stock and might push the boundaries of what a "card" is....which is the other reason I haven't picked one up ....regards

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Posted By: dan mckee

Thin stock is absolutely correct! And I wouldn't consider them a card but a premium. Dan

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Posted By: Glen V

I heard that there are only five known players, and each "card" is unique. I have the Lajoie - will post a scan tonight. They are on thin paper and look like they have been cut out of something. I thought they were closer to 4x6", maybe a touch taller, but will have to check on that.

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Posted By: Chris

Lisa: There's no way I'll get into an ivy league school now. At this rate I probably won't even get into Vassar.

Homer: I've had just about enough of your Vassar-bashing, young lady!

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Posted By: T206Collector

Hence all the Vassar references in the Simpsons during the era in which he wrote/produced the Simpsons.



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Posted By: Chris

I didn't know that... makes sense though. There are at least 3 or 4 that I can think of.

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Posted By: Glen V

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Posted By: Jeff Lichtman

Glen, really cool card.

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Posted By: dan mckee

4 inches wide and 6 and 5/8 inches tall:

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Posted By: Jeff Lichtman

Dan, incredible card. Are they handcut? And do you have a picture of the Cobb?

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Posted By: dan mckee

Never saved a picture of Cobb and yes, seem to be hand cut. Mine is from the Walter Johnson family scrapbook. Dan.

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Posted By: Ryan Christoff

Those are ridiculously cool!

Dan, what is your theory regarding production and/or distribution? Since they are hand-cut, were they part of a larger advertising piece? Or does it seem like they were actually meant to be individual premiums (or whatever you want to call them)?

-Ryan

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Posted By: Lyle

but I am going to post a scan from several years ago when I was interested in the Vassar Cobb .

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Posted By: paulstratton

Nice! Thanks to Dr.D for starting this thread.

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Posted By: Jeff Lichtman

Wow, what a great Cobb. Love it. Thanks for posting that, Lyle.

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Posted By: Doug

I was going to scan and post the Vassar Cobb tomorrow! It's a great one. Really nice to see the Lajoie and the Johnson!

Doug

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Posted By: Lyle

it sure makes me wish I had pulled the trigger on that one .Great pickup !

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Posted By: Doug

Don't sweat it! Card brings its own thunder!

Doug

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Posted By: Dan Kravitz

Tik called me about that card and I couldn't figure it out. When I met up with Doug in Cali, I figured it out. Awesome card! It's in the right hands now. I too wished I didn't pass.

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Posted By: Darren

Thanks to Glen, Dan, & Lyle for posting those sweet images.

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Posted By: dan mckee

I am completely stumped on these Ryan. Very fair questions and possible ideas you have. Your thoughts are as good as any I can come up with.

I carried that Cobb for many shows and had it on ebay a few times before giving it away cheap to Terry. Dan.

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Posted By: Darren

In addition to the subjects here, the Standard Catalog also lists Sam Crawford and Smokey Joe Wood. If anyone has scans of these I'd love to see them.

Thanks

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Posted By: DD

http://tinyurl.com/3vmwjt

Almost 100% sure based on the passages in the above link that the Vassar on the sweater has nothing to do with the school.

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Posted By: DD

Most likely issued in Michigan.

The History and Pioneers of Vassar The town was founded in the mid-1850’s as a lumbering town by the Honorable. Townsend North. The town also had a woolen mill, with its famous “Vassar Sweater”. Today it is known as the “Cork Pine Capital of Michigan”. See 150 years of history unfold before your eyes! From its business and farm community, floods, churches and schools. and moving on to the prosperous community it is today.


http://www.michiganhistoryvideos.com/html/town_histories.html

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Posted By: Ryan Christoff

I don't think anyone was actually suggesting these had anything to do with the women's college. I think everyone was joking.

A quick google search will indeed show you that these were from the "Vassar Sweater" company in Vassar, Michigan.

-Ryan

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Posted By: DD

I knew that, but it didn't seem that obvious, to me anyway, based on the info in the thread.

[CrackaJackKid]

Does anyone have a picture of the Wajo? Or just any card? I'm dying to see what these cards look like. Thanks

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Originally Posted by Winston7715

Does anyone have a picture of the Wajo? Or just any card? I'm dying to see what these cards look like. Thanks

Here are a few images that I have gathered over the years.

[CrackaJackKid]

Thanks Kevin! Them are stellar!

[benchod]

That's a great looking trio, Kevin
Thanks for sharing

[Bicem]

Agreed, those are amazing.

[Baseball Rarities]

You guys are welcome.

But, just to be clear, these are not my cards (I wish that they were!), rather just images that I have collected over the years.

[BeanTown]

Closest thing I have to them is this.