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Old 07-08-2016, 12:47 AM
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Default 1939 Exhibit cards?

I just bought this 4 card lot for $15 and I think that at least one of them is an Exhibit from 1939 Ted Williams. I think I got a good deal even if the condition isn't the best.


am I right about the Ted card? and what years are the other 3 cards from?


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there are two main types of exhibits that would have a Ted Williams. They are very easy to tell apart and the name of the set in the hobby explains it succinctly. From 1939 to 1946 they were "Exhibits Salutations" simply meaning there was some kind of message in addition to the "signature" From 1946 -1961 they had not message and were just "Exhibits."

So of the ones you have pictured above the Williams is definitely from 1939 - 1946. There are two variations on this card, one where his back is to the camera called "number showing" and the one you have above "number not showing." Yours is by far the more common version. Generally speaking the cards are worth only a tiny fraction of what a regular issue card from that era would be worth, but at $15 for the lot you did fine.
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there are two main types of exhibits that would have a Ted Williams. They are very easy to tell apart and the name of the set in the hobby explains it succinctly. From 1939 to 1946 they were "Exhibits Salutations" simply meaning there was some kind of message in addition to the "signature" From 1946 -1961 they had not message and were just "Exhibits."

So of the ones you have pictured above the Williams is definitely from 1939 - 1946. There are two variations on this card, one where his back is to the camera called "number showing" and the one you have above "number not showing." Yours is by far the more common version. Generally speaking the cards are worth only a tiny fraction of what a regular issue card from that era would be worth, but at $15 for the lot you did fine.


I believe the Williams was produced into the 60s

A good deal though


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I believe the Williams was produced into the 60s

A good deal though


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No, the "salutations" were only produced up to 1946. There are Williams cards from the second "regular" set produced until 1961.
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A number of salutations were included in with the 1947-66 Exhibits and that Williams was one of them. The other #9 showing Williams was a Salutation 1939-46 only.

You got a nice deal on them.

Here is a Feller that was issued after 1946-


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Thanx for the replies guys!

Is there any way to determine the year? Is it worth having these things graded ? I was just happy to nab cards of players I might otherwise not be able to afford, so am not planning on flipping em for a profit or anything.
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Thanx for the replies guys!

Is there any way to determine the year? Is it worth having these things graded ? I was just happy to nab cards of players I might otherwise not be able to afford, so am not planning on flipping em for a profit or anything.
This site might help you date the cards

http://keymancollectibles.com/exhibitdatechart.htm

And again, the Williams, although it has a salutation was produced up until the 1960s
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This site might help you date the cards

http://keymancollectibles.com/exhibitdatechart.htm

And again, the Williams, although it has a salutation was produced up until the 1960s
wow, great resource thanx!
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Hey, just picked up another six for $7 ! (quick question, how the heck do I keep these safe without getting em graded? are there cases for em?


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Hey, just picked up another six for $7 ! (quick question, how the heck do I keep these safe without getting em graded? are there cases for em?


The Trout is a 39-46 year, the rest are 47-66. Good deal!

They make top loaders for these and 4 pocket sheets as well.

Oh, and the Case was put out ONLY in 1947 (if memory serves).

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top loaders? great! I have no card store nearby so i reckon it's internet time.

thanx for the info!

the guy just put a bunch more up for sale but I've blown my budget for this week for cards. Would like to snatch some more.
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Default Salutations Ted Williams

The Salutation Ted Williams pictured above, was produced into the 1960's which is why the card is so prevalent. There have been pics, I believe on this board, showing an uncut sheet of later exhibits picturing the Williams and one or two other salutation Exhibits. Be careful just going by what the big book says.

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That is correct. I posted that uncut sheet. It has a Williams salutation and a Detroit Colavito on it. Cleveland traded Colavito for Harvey Kueen in 1960.
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The Salutation Ted Williams pictured above, was produced into the 1960's which is why the card is so prevalent. There have been pics, I believe on this board, showing an uncut sheet of later exhibits picturing the Williams and one or two other salutation Exhibits. Be careful just going by what the big book says.
so, the only way to determine the year of the Ted card is to use the "made in usa" guidelines?
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I just keep racking up more of these things for cheap! (it's on a FB card auction group)

got these for $18


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and these for $8 (especially like the Branca and Preacher Roe)





guy told me he bought a huge lot of these including some graded, going to maybe make a lot deal with him for more (sadly no Ruth or Gehrig ....)
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A poster on another forum said PSA was no longer grading Exhibit cards, not sure where they got that from though.
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A number of salutations were included in with the 1947-66 Exhibits and that Williams was one of them. The other #9 showing Williams was a Salutation 1939-46 only.

You got a nice deal on them.

Here is a Feller that was issued after 1946-

According to the resource link provided, the flip is mislabeled and the card is not a 1955

http://api.viglink.com/api/click?for...tdatechart.htm

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A poster on another forum said PSA was no longer grading Exhibit cards, not sure where they got that from though.
according to the PSA site Exhibit is still listed as accepted for grading.
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They were probably referring to football. They don't (at least the last I heard) grade the 1948-52 football exhibits.
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Sorry Dan the reference is wrong, the card is from 1955 with the printed post card back (Fred can chime in as hes the expert on the 1955 issue that hes working on a master set). And yes PSA grades most of the baseball exhibits but none of the football and not sure if any boxing.
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Sorry Dan the reference is wrong, the card is from 1955 with the printed post card back (Fred can chime in as hes the expert on the 1955 issue that hes working on a master set). And yes PSA grades most of the baseball exhibits but none of the football and not sure if any boxing.
Just the 1955's or the reference as a whole?
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Here is an promo advertising card for the 1950 Exhibit printing (Only year that a Phillies team card was included).

You can see that in 1950- Joe Dimaggio, Williams, Feller, Elliott and Holmes were still being printed and they all only have Salutations-

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I've been trying to get them to grade boxing exhibits for a while. I cannot figure out why they would cede the entire field to SGC and BVG.
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according to the PSA site Exhibit is still listed as accepted for grading.
Hi Dan:

Sorry to be so late to the party! Scott Mt. Joy is correct that the Feller Salutation card with PC back he posted is from 1955 even though it has MADE IN U.S.A. designation in the bottom right corner.

ESCO issued this "bastardized" set in 1955 with the Postcard backs using many different previously issued cards from different "sets".

Beside the Feller the ever present Pafko Salutation is included in the set as well.

There are cards from the "type script" set that has PRINTED IN U.S.A., others with Made in U.S.A, MADE IN U.S.A., and "AN EXHIBIT CARD" set.

Though confusing, this is how the set was issued.

If anyone has any of the postcard backs in the Exhibit baseball or football sets please PM me. I am doing research and would like to ask some questions.

I have some dupes available for trade for others I am looking for or will buy those I need.

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