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Old 03-22-2015, 02:16 PM
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Default Selling collection..looking for dealer..

Ive decided to part with the majority of my baseball card collection.

Its mainly lower grade ( VG G F P ), many complete sets,many partial sets,many oddball groups of stuff,

Rough list includes the following complete sets - 1933 Goudey, 1934 Goudey, 1934-36 Diamond Stars, 1934-36 Batter Up, 1953 Topps,..some 60s Topps sets, loads of other stuff, 1930s thru 60s , Yearbooks, memorabilia, limited edition signed statues,etc..

Hoping that an east coast dealer might be interested,and possibly bring it to the National to sell.

Again, many rough cards in collection, but Im being realistic with pricing ,as Ive been collecting for many many years and fully understand - supply/ demand/ grades/values/dealer overhead/ commissions /etc

I want to sell as much as I could in one shot...have ABOSLUTLY NO interest in selling just one set to this guy, one set to that guy

Im working up a price on everything, its going to be above 20 , and I feel at that..someone could easily make money on it

any interested party's feel free to PM me, I will gladly discuss over the phone

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Hate to see you getting out of it, ole buddy! Best of luck to you!

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I will pay 10% more than what Sean Bassik is offering you.
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I will pay 2% more than what Jason is paying you
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I will pay 2% more than what Jason is paying you

I'll pay 12.6781% less than Sean

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14.999% less than Jake

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I was told there would be no math...
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Not sure why anyone would want to bring the feeding frenzy on themselves. Why not use an auction house?
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Not sure why anyone would want to bring the feeding frenzy on themselves. Why not use an auction house?
Can't speak for the seller, but my guess is that it's to get as many offers as possible. You can always go the auction house route afterwards if you can't get an offer to your liking.
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Not sure why anyone would want to bring the feeding frenzy on themselves. Why not use an auction house?
15-20% auction house loss in fees is a lot... though sometimes people wont offer direct to the seller what they offer at an auction....both seller and buyer both lose when that happens if within that 20%...
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Call me ignorant, but I thought many of the auction houses give the hammer price to the seller and keep the juice for themselves. Am i correct in saying that? That way the seller gets the entire amount that the item "sells" for? If i am incorrect, someone please educate me
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Call me ignorant, but I thought many of the auction houses give the hammer price to the seller and keep the juice for themselves. Am i correct in saying that? That way the seller gets the entire amount that the item "sells" for? If i am incorrect, someone please educate me
Nope. Most of the auction houses (unless there is an agreement between auction house and consignor to the contrary) get a percentage of the sale price from both consignor and buyer. So an item that sells for $1000 means the buyer might be out $1200 and the consignor might receive $850. The house keeps $350.

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One can negotiate with AH's to wave the consigners fee and in some cases can even obtain part of the AH's fee if the items consigned are that good.

Personally I don't consign to an AH if they charge any consignment fees.
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I'll pay 5% of low book. That is the Nebraska rule of thumb to assure I will make a profit.
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There are tons of good auction houses or dealers and you have to decide what is right for you

An auction house such as B&L which does not charge any juice to the seller would be a good way to base anything you want for the lot.

And I think the L part of that group may know something about Net 54

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Shop around. If you don't like the offers, consign it to an auction house. The sets you list should get good bidding at auction.

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Old 03-23-2015, 01:14 PM
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Guys,
that's for suggestions and funny comments

Im posting pics shortly

Im not selling due to needing money or family issue

just thinking of future..before its on top of me

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Old 03-23-2015, 01:28 PM
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Considering an AH, the bidders have to factor in the 15% or 20% juice they are paying so even if the auction house gives you full hammer, you are still possibly losing money you could get from a private sale.

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Here are pics.. definitely " collector " grade !
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Great collection...but I got to admit the dumbbells look rather random.
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I will pay 10% more than what Sean Bassik is offering you.
I offered him $24k.
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Thanks for posting the pictures. You have a nice collection of things other collectors like, so whoever buys your stuff will be able to sell it quickly if he doesn't overprice it.
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If the offers are like that, maybe I should sell my collection! I guess now is as good a time as any to get out!
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bobby you keep saying you will sell your collection..guess we will have to wait a few more years for that to happen
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Jason are you officially offering $26,400? 10% more than Sean...
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Come on Sean,..I cant take your money !
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got to hang it to sean..he goes out there and makes real offers and doesn't wait around....lots of people talk but no action..
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Jason are you officially offering $26,400? 10% more than Sean...
Didn't you officially offer 2% over Jason?
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Didn't you officially offer 2% over Jason?
Jason hasn't made an official offer yet.....we will see than what I decide to do as time is an issue ..

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Gentlemen,

Is the main forum within Net54 the appropriate place for Buy/Sell/Trade negotiations?
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Is the main forum within Net54 the appropriate place for Buy/Sell/Trade negotiations?
generally not but it's kind of amusing....
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got to hang it to sean..he goes out there and makes real offers and doesn't wait around....lots of people talk but no action..
Indeed. It's like having Mr Mint around.

Just without all the asshattery and sliminess.

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I always see people take pot shots at how I pay nothing for what I buy.

The funny thing is I'm sure if they ran stuff by me they would see quite the opposite.

To you gentlemen I say, put your money where your mouth is.

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Shop auction houses. Take your time, there will be offers. Some better than others. Make phone calls and find someone you feel you can trust, that offers reasonable fees (juice), and will get your items the most/best exposure. When I liquidated I had about 10 auction houses that I quickly narrowed to five. Had long phone conversations with three, and very longtime conversations with two before I decided.
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Im posting pics shortly

Im not selling due to needing money or family issue

just thinking of future..before its on top of me

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As a fellow low-grade collector, I loved seeing the photos of your cards. I particularly look forward to the 34 Goudeys hitting the market. Good luck with your sale.

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I completely agree with Sean here. If he is indeed offering you $24K for this collection take it. My guess is he will act sincere and then disappear like he usually does because he is busy. If he can pay the $24K I would take it. As far as AH route I would agree with exploring that avenue IF the collection was mid grade or better. Low grade sets and collections do not fair well in AH settings. You would get roasted and a buyer will always consider the 20% commission in his/her bid. Sean…..what no midgets in chi-town? I had a couple of dealer friends who were sad you didn't show, but I know you are busy. Sold the autos, but kept about 6 boxes of the premium stuff. When you are serious enough to answer emails after I spent a day and a half getting you your detailed list, let me know and maybe I can get you a deal done. Ralph, good luck on the sale and if I were you I would take Sean up.

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Ralph, great collection. That being said based on what you said and shown, 24k seems pretty good. Have you done a cost analysis? I dont know if I could let go of the Ruth'\s and Gehrigs.
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Ralph, great collection. That being said based on what you said and shown, 24k seems pretty good. Have you done a cost analysis? I dont know if I could let go of the Ruth'\s and Gehrigs.

many of those ruths are only in the 1000-2000 range and would be required to get a big offer like seans..

I guess my 2% offer over Jason's turns out to be 0 since he offered 0....got to hand it to sean hes not all talk...
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generally not but it's kind of amusing....
I love the way that you run the forum Leon!!

Sure there are rules, but everything doesn't have to be black and white (like some other sites that shall remain nameless). This thread isn't hurting anyone, its not malicious and it is enjoyable to watch!
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Sure there are rules, but everything doesn't have to be black and white (like some other sites that shall remain nameless). This thread isn't hurting anyone, its not malicious and it is enjoyable to watch!
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Sure there are rules, but everything doesn't have to be black and white (like some other sites that shall remain nameless). This thread isn't hurting anyone, its not malicious and it is enjoyable to watch!
I agree. This is good entertainment for some of us. Someone should call A&E and get a "Card Wars" TV show started. They would have all their personalities right here on the forum. Brokering big money deals in front of everyone, soak or don't soak, cracking open slabs, fellow dealers screwing each other and being called out, real or fake cards...it's like a middle aged mans soap opera. Love it.

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I agree. This is good entertainment for some of us. Someone should call A&E and get a "Card Wars" TV show started. They would have all their personalities right here on the forum. Brokering big money deals in front of everyone, soak or don't soak, cracking open slabs, fellow dealers screwing each other and being called out, real or fake cards...it's like a middle aged mans soap opera. Love it.
Then they could head over to the autograph side...

Although things have been somewhat quiet there lately. Everyone playing nicey nice.

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Ralph---I would say Sean made a very good offer of 24K---I would say the Ruths would sell for $1000-1200---From what I see from your scans, collection looks good (lower grade but looks like alot of stuff)--It would help if you provided a few more details----I did email you and you responded where you wanted my phone number, which I sent you, but I didnt receive a call.---Again from what I see of the scans---I would take the 24K. Don
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Thanks to all for comments, encouragement, opinions, and suggestions

I now have the paint remover and scrub brush out and erasing my comment of -

I will NOT break up collection and sell one set to this guy, one set to that guy

Aahh....finding out its in my best interest to possibly try and sell it one at a time...throw one to this auction house..throw one on ebay..sell one to this guy,etc..

My advantage is there is no urgency to sell ASAP

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