David Hall auctioning his t206 master collection

[chriskim]

Now that David Hall is auctioning his t206 master collection, does it mean t206 rare backs market will go downhill? The market will no longer has a big shark willing to pay insane prices for rare backs.

[bbsports]

David Hall's cards are already priced in. If a new find was discovered, that would lower the prices on rare backs. This is not the case. In fact, because of the supply and demand, it may even raise the price of rare backs. Nobody has the rare backs that Dave Hall has.

[bigfish]

The t206 set and so popular and the quantity of tougher backs seems to be short of the demand. I see them to continue to increase despite Hall's influx of cards into the market.

[edhans]

[QUOTE=bigfish; I see them to continue to increase despite Hall's influx of cards into the market.[/QUOTE]

I don't know, Toby. That's a hell of a lot of rare backs to be absorbed. Sixty something Drums (I'm going by memory, so that may be off). I'm sure lots of collectors will want one or two for their type set, but unless someone else, or two someones, really, is attempting what David was, I just don't see that many being absorbed without some softening of the prices.

[ullmandds]

I have no doubt Halls' cards will be "absorbed" but I do question the prices some of these cards will command.

Last 5-10 years or so...as long as I've been aware of Hall's attempt at the monster I can't tell you how many friends/collectors I know for a fact put cards up for sale they knew that hall needed. I'm sure lots of shilling and driving up prices of some/many of these cards did occur with the mindset that Hall is loaded and he will pay.

While there are no doubt many deep pocketed collectors out there I still think some of halls' cards will sell for less than he paid...not to mention the ones that will be outed as altered.

[Ronnie73]

Me being a collector of the same set that David is selling, I can say that there won't be much of a flood in the market since technically it's only one card of each being sold. I know there has to be more than me collecting the set. As far as what they will sell for, I don't think David will lose money overall on the sale. The big question is, how many of us have the money currently to spend on these cards. I currently don't, but I will be waiting for 2 cards to bid on.

[tibor1]

oops

[RedsFan1941]

public service announcement or paid advertisement?

[ullmandds]

Originally Posted by RedsFan1941

public service announcement or paid advertisement?

seems like a mixture

[Leon]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

seems like a mixture

I just spoke to the user Tilbor. It definitely wasn't a shill. The user didn't understand but does now. He is a very nice person and was apologetic. Now he knows the rules. Our anonymity rule is different than almost any other forum. And actually, he didn't really give an opinion of a company or person, however, shills are going to need a name. But again, definitely not one. He was being sincere in his comment.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by tibor1

This is a once in a life time opportunity to acquire some rare
cards. Bid on cards for your collection. Don't let " shoulda, coulda"
be your motto years from now.

Please put your full name next to your post.

[forceplay sport]

pardon my ignorance, I dont know David Hall ........

[swarmee]

https://www.psacard.com/psasetregistry/awardshalloffame
Scroll down a little bit.

Added: For collectors that like provenance of having cards owned by famous collectors, an example would be a nice thing to add to your collection. If I wasn't boycotting at this point, I would probably win one of the cheaper ones.

[Ronnie73]

Originally Posted by swarmee

https://www.psacard.com/psasetregistry/awardshalloffame
Scroll down a little bit.

Added: For collectors that like provenance of having cards owned by famous collectors, an example would be a nice thing to add to your collection. If I wasn't boycotting at this point, I would probably win one of the cheaper ones.

I agree having at least one would be nice but was curious about your boycotting. Heritage is doing the auctions and nearly all of David's cards were graded before all this card doctoring. I personally believe that purchasing any of his cards now would be just like if we were purchasing them two years ago in regards to the grading. Also, David never bothered to reholder his collection to add any provenance on the holders, so the only way to tell if a card was one of David's would be to cross reference the PSA number and the auction catalog.

[ullmandds]

Originally Posted by forceplay sport

pardon my ignorance, I dont know David Hall ........

wasn't he 1/2 of hall and oates?

[Sean]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

wasn't he 1/2 of hall and oates?

Yeah, he was Oates.

[Beastmode]

Originally Posted by tibor1

This is a once in a life time opportunity to acquire some rare
cards. Bid on cards for your collection. Don't let " shoulda, coulda"
be your motto years from now.

This is the kind of irrational emotion that lets card manipulators thrive. You're a prime target for them.