York Caramel Question

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Posted By: Scot Reader

Based on an ebay front scan I recently bought a card in an SGC 84 holder labelled as an E210 1927 York Caramel (the card is Reuther #2). The card arrived and it is blank-backed. Does this mean for sure that it is a W502 and that SGC screwed-up? Or is there such a thing as a blank-backed E210? And if there is such a thing as a blank-backed E210 how can they be distinguished from a W502? Thanks, Scot

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Posted By: Rhys

I just was thinking the same thing last week because I bought two blank backed cards of Schalk and Covaleskie which look and feel EXACTLY like the many York Caramels I have owned. When I further checked the Card Catalog, the numbers only match with those of the Ice Cream and Caramel issues and the 1928 W502 cards, but the look and feel of Yorks is different from these other issues. I was always under the impression that there are blank backed York caramels but these are the first I have owned. Afurther testament is the fact that both cards I have exhibit light caramel staining as well.

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Posted By: Anson

There seem to be a lot of similarities to the Yorks and W502s. Also, don't forget about the UNC strip cards from 31'. They have nearly the same format as the other two but are a much smaller set.

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Posted By: prewarsports

The W-UNC set from '31 has a different numbered checklist than the W502 from '28 and from the Ice Cream/York issues.

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Posted By: Scot

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Posted By: Scot Reader

All,
Thanks for the information.

Scot,
My Reuther has a look (tan color, photo quality, very light brown staining) and thickness similar to your Grimes--so maybe it is a York Caramel after all.

All,
Follow up question: Any idea how many blank-backed Yorks there are relative to Yorks with printing on the back? 1:1; 1:10; 1:100; 1:1000? Any ballpark estimate would be appreciated.

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Posted By: Anson

Scot, I don't think there are enough Yorks out there to even get to 1:1000. Although they haven't been cataloged as such, I would bet that there are several out there (as it seems that a few board memebers have them). They're cool, nevertheless.

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Posted By: Scot

Could be uncataloged strip card issue, salesman samples or error cards. Here's the rest.