Proof? T206 were printed in rows of more than twelve

[t206hound]

Well, maybe not... but I still think this is interesting.

Based on T206 vertical miscuts, we've seen instances of double names (same name at top and bottom) as well as two names (different name at top and bottom). We've seen this even for the same player, in my case, Rossman:



So we can presume that there was at least stacks of two; we also have postulated that based on the ratio of known two-namers to double-namers that it is highly likely that there were more than two stacked on a sheet.

Until now, I haven't seen anything that can demonstrate this. I've been looking around the site recently and came across the "neighbours" thread that shows the extremely cool "Lash's Bitters" cards and their arrangement:



I probably looked at that thread and that image 20 times without realizing that there were two different Rudoph cards pictured. I noticed that while the two cards were not adjacent, they appeared to line up vertically.

I used the image that Jantz posted in 2013 to layout the Lash's trade card stacked. Then I overlayed the instances of the backs of the Rudolphs on top of that image. I also overlayed part of one of the Lash's backs to confirm the spacing between the trade cards. It certainly looks like EXACTLY ONE CARD fits between the two of them. I added straight lines and the front images as a guide. Now while it is possible that a different player/pose appeared in that spot, I would put my money that there is/was a third "bitter" Rudoph that fits perfectly between these two.

[atx840]

Nice Erick.

Out of the 34 known yellow/brown scraps there is only one with 4 examples, the rest are 1-3. Either there was a second sheet or possibly 4 were stacked.



I think the test print scraps could be useful. There are two Pfeiffer's scraps that likely are stacked, would like to track down higher res scans.

[Runscott]

Chris, regarding the Doyle - could you compare how the backs line up, to see the likelihood that they were stacked? I know there are a lot of different possible combinations, and if the stack were greater than 4, or more than one sheet was printed, it would be almost impossible. But you never know.

[atx840]

Hey Scott, unfortunately I don't have back scans of all four. Several of the y/bs have been trimmed since making it difficult to align based on border cuts.

Erick, as a side note I believe the Schlafly aligns to the right of the Rudolph.

[t206hound]

I went one more step... I believe it's at least four. As you'll see, for every four T206s, there are three Bitter's trade cards...


Based on the back cuts:
Nattress, Barbeau, Miller, Maddox cards were on line #1
Brashear, Rhodes, Rudolph (a), Schlafly, Barger, Graham, Bliss were on line #2
(no cards on line #3)
Rudolph (b) was on line #4

[Matvoo]

Very cool thread

[atx840]

I'd love to find it Jantz, there are a few Lash PCs with men wearing hats but nothing yet matches.

[t206hound]

I haven't found a match either. Here's a page with several trade cards from Lash's:
http://www.tradecards.com/articles/ponds/

And a blog entries from this year about the company:
http://www.peachridgeglass.com/2014/...r-advertising/

[Jantz]

Chris & Er!ck

I agree with both of you.

I've looked at those two websites before.

Here is another Lash's trade card with men wearing hats.


Jantz

[atx840]

It does look like the T206 sheet was used as a test for the Lash Bitters ad. A few different ink layers can be seen across the T206s.

Oh to find a test sheet like this uncut



If you can keep an eye out for a larger red "LASH BITTERS" it could be whats on the back of the Maddox.

[t206hound]

Originally Posted by atx840

If you can keep an eye out for a larger red "LASH BITTERS" it could be whats on the back of the Maddox.

I didn't notice that different Lash's Bitters red printing until I re-read your post. So much going on with this scrap.

If I were to hazard a guess, based on my layouts, I would say that Maddox was between Miller and Brashear (don't know if it is directly adjacent, or just the column between the two). Still working on this... slowly.

[atx840]

They are, to me, great little piece of T206 history and really appreciate owning one, thank you.

Erick you're right, Maddox is probably not in the correct spot. There is a lot going on with these and my head hurts trying to understand it

Need to take it one PC overlay at a time plus as you mentioned consider the confirmed neighbours for the known Lash examples. If someone wants to run with the dimension aspect of potential sheet size based on the PC that would really help. Fun stuff.