How is Jimmy Ryan not a HOF'er?

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How is Jimmy Ryan not a HOF'er? His stats are comparable to a lot of his counterparts from his era, 2,500 hits, hit a decent amount of HR's over his career, ton of steals...seems like to me IMO should be a HOF'er...

[keating3620]

his stats compare to Mark Grace. Lots of doubles too.

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Originally Posted by keating3620

his stats compare to Mark Grace. Lots of doubles too.

That's like comparing apples and oranges to different eras, totally different standards today.

King Kelly is in, John Ward is in, Buck Ewing..., the list goes on and on and on. Ryan DWARFS them in statistical comparison pretty much.

[bender07]

Ryan definitely looks like a good candidate per the HOF monitors on B-R.com. George Van Haltren looks like another that should be considered.

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Originally Posted by bender07

Ryan definitely looks like a good candidate per the HOF monitors on B-R.com. George Van Haltren looks like another that should be considered.

Maybe he wasn't that of a "big name" player, but from the looks of it, looks like he was a hell of a player. I don't know how his history was with the veterans committee, but should be in.

[fkw]

.308 in that Era was almost average.. there were quite a few guys hitting over .400 per season in that Era

I see that he only led the league in hits 1 time, 2Bs 1 time, HRs 1 time, slug% 1 time, (all in the same year), never led the league in any other offensive category in his 18 year career, .......solid player, but not even close to HOF for that Era.

[bender07]

Originally Posted by fkw

.308 in that Era was almost average.. there were quite a few guys hitting over .400 per season in that Era

I see that he only led the league in hits 1 time, 2Bs 1 time, HRs 1 time, slug% 1 time, (all in the same year), never led the league in any other offensive category in his 18 year career, .......solid player, but not even close to HOF for that Era.

Not sure if I agree here, at least from a B-R.com perspective. OPS+ does a good job of normalizing data and at 124 he matches up well against other dead ball era HOFers: Jimmy Collins, Ewing, King Kelly, Monte Ward and so on.

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Just don't know if he had the popularity, but he did have the numbers. His career totals are great from his era. Anyone know how he stacked up with the voting?