It all comes down to color

[Leon]

Again? Really? No one is telling anyone what or how to collect.. We were having a discussion about regular rarity and manufactured rarity (it is still manufactured rarity whether you think so or not.) Where does anyone tell anyone how to collect? I suggest you take some reading comprehension classes and study hard because you can't comprehend that no one is being elitist except you. All in your head, made up right here in front of our eyes. It is people like you that conjure up a whole lot of imaginary stuff so you can feel like you are protecting others on the internet. Give me a break...
You are the one that is putting all of this BS out here, it is all in your imagination and not anyone else's. It is ALL YOU. I think you are living in Bizarro World .

Originally Posted by HasselhoffsCheeseburger

My apologies to the OP and everyone reading the thread. I can't stand message board drama but if there's one thing that I can't stand even more than that is someone making fun of a collector for who/what/how/why they collect. This was even more bizarre than usual as the person believed it was somehow a proven fact and not his opinion.

The irony is that he collects prewar, where thousands upon thousands of dollars are the difference because they spelled the player's last name wrong or the ad on the back is different or, the ultimate, the card is severely miscut or there's a severe print defect. It's all the same, folks. There's no such thing as earned rarity when another find could be right around the corner.

But really, it's just about civility. How much of an elitist snob do you have to be to just walk right into a situation blind and crap all over what someone else collects? Talk about a grossly distorted sense of self-importance.

Arthur

[Jim65]

Honestly, I see no differences between modern "intentional" rarities and some older ones like the 1933 Goudey Lajoie.

[HasselhoffsCheeseburger]

Originally Posted by Leon

Again? Really? No one is telling anyone what or how to collect.. We were having a discussion about regular rarity and manufactured rarity (it is still manufactured rarity whether you think so or not.) Where does anyone tell anyone how to collect? I suggest you take some reading comprehension classes and study hard because you can't comprehend that no one is being elitist except you. All in your head, made up right here in front of our eyes. It is people like you that conjure up a whole lot of imaginary stuff so you can feel like you are protecting others on the internet. Give me a break...
You are the one that is putting all of this BS out here, it is all in your imagination and not anyone else's. It is ALL YOU. I think you are living in Bizarro World .

In fairness, you went back and edited all of your posts to make it seem like I conjured this all up (your new claim against me). Which, let's face it, is a pretty cowardly thing to do. You changed tone, terminology, and overall points. How insecure to you have to be to go back and do that? There's obviously no point in having a discussion with you so I'll lay this to bed.

For everybody else, collect what you like and don't be afraid to share it. Most of us appreciate the stories behind the cards more than the cards themselves anyway. There's a lot more good guys in this hobby than there are elitist pricks, remember that.

Arthur

[Leon]

Long diatribe deleted. Have fun collecting.

Originally Posted by HasselhoffsCheeseburger

In fairness, you went back and edited all of your posts to make it seem like I conjured this all up (your new claim against me). Which, let's face it, is a pretty cowardly thing to do. You changed tone, terminology, and overall points. How insecure to you have to be to go back and do that? There's obviously no point in having a discussion with you so I'll lay this to bed.

For everybody else, collect what you like and don't be afraid to share it. Most of us appreciate the stories behind the cards more than the cards themselves anyway. There's a lot more good guys in this hobby than there are elitist pricks, remember that.

Arthur

[ALR-bishop]

I only collect post war with the exception of the Fleer 1923 set. I collect Topps, Fleer and Bowman set runs, and I add recognized hobby variations and recurring print defects to those sets.

Many expensive and scarce post war "variations" are in my view just unintended print defects, like the 52 Black star, the 57 Bakep, the 58 Herrer and 61 Fairly. Most such recurring print defects have no hobby recognition beyond a few sick, fixated collectors...like me

In addition to continuing to add the current Topps base sets and update sets to my run of sets, I have done all the Heritage sets in "master" form. For Heritage the hobby definition of a master set, unlike older Topps sets, does not include variations. I assume because almost all of such variations are intentional ( even though some would say the only true "variations" are cards intentionally changed by the manufacturer).

But, for Heritage I did do all the known variations through 2010. Starting in 2011 the sheer number of variations... red fish, blue fish, green fish...and the planned scarcity of some caused me to give up. Too expensive and time consuming, even for a fanatic like me.

But since I do not collect as much of the newer stuff I like to see threads in here discussing and posting pics of what is going on in the hobby today, particularly the odd stuff. And, I am utterly amazed at some of the prices being paid for scarce "chase" type cards today.

[HasselhoffsCheeseburger]

I suppose I'm probably right on the fringe. I've done searches for rookie cards of Sox players so I know just enough to make myself dangerous. I was basically just looking for Bowman Chrome autographs and, to me, it all got broken down into three groups -- the regular refractor (which usually has a print run of 500-750), the regular Chrome auto (no print run), and then all of the different colored cards.

I'd say, for the most part, the colored cards are niche. Most people are just looking for the base auto or a refractor auto. Or I'm projecting and I have no idea what I'm talking about. I'd say it's 50/50.

Arthur