T206 MISSION ACCOMPLISHED....99.8% Sovereign

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Posted By: Ted Zanidakis

It's been 11 months since I first embarked on this adventure to put together an all-Sovereign set. It was a real
labor of love, since I realized very early in the game that a good number of T206 subjects were not printed with
the Sovereign brand. So, an additional challenge was to research which ones were not printed.....otherwise, I'd
never be confident that I completed this set. To that end, I've discovered 66 cards that I refer to as "No-Prints".

Now that it is 99.3% complete, I derive a certain sense of satisfaction as I flip the album pages of this set; and,
there is a complete field of GREEN backs, rather than the usual "rainbow" array of T206 backs.

Consider this, this 404 card Sovereign set requires none of the "Big Six"....no 48 Southern Leaguers....and, there
are 66 No-Prints.....therefore, 404 different T206 Subjects comprise this basic set. Can you beat that ?

Furthermore, if you include the Six Super-Prints with their very tough Sovereign 460 backs, then you have the
"ultimate" Sovereign set consisting of 410 cards.

So, I still need the following 4 cards; and, any help will really be appreciated....

Ball (NY).........150 series
Campbell.........350 series
Jim Collins.......350 series
Red Cobb........460 series (super-print)

Last Series (52 cards)....which includes the very tough 6 super-prints with Sovereign 460 backs (missing Red Cobb).


See guys....I even have a few Graded cards in this set....12 to be exact.




But, you have to love all these....there's nothing like touching little pieces of cardboard depicting your favorite BB players.


TED Z collection

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Posted By: Matt

Mazal Tov!

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Posted By: Joe D.

very very cool.


Are you going to bring those beautiful green-backs to the philly show?

Any chance I might be able to wrestle one or two away from you at that show? I'd like to call dibs on a couple right now!


great stuff. congrats.

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Posted By: Marc S.

Quite a cool accomplishment.

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Posted By: T206Collector

...if you only need 404 different T206 to have a complete set, where you get to 406 out of 410? Your super-print explanation was over my head.

Thanks!

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Posted By: Rick McQuillan

Nice! Especially in only 11 months. I'll keep my eyes open for the other 4 when I travel to shows.

Rick

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Posted By: Steve Dawson

Nice job Ted!

When are you gonna start the All-Uzit-backed set?


Steve

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Posted By: Jason Carota

Amazing accomplishment, Ted. Congrats!

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Posted By: barry arnold

Meritorius, indeed,TRex.
Congratulations!!!!

all the best,
barry

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Posted By: Ted Zanidakis

Can you please tell me the meaning of....."Mazal Tov" ?

TED Z

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Posted By: Ted Zanidakis

PAUL

First, let me add that I have enhanced this set with 5 (of the 6) super-prints (s-s) that were issued in the
last series having the rare Sovereign 460 backs.
And, keep in mind, that I have all 6 of these (s-s) cards with Sovereign 350 backs as part of this basic set
of 404 different subjects.

I need 3 cards (Ball, Campbell and Jimmy Collins) from the basic set; therefore, I currently have 401. I have
depicted in the "Sovereign 460" scan (in my initial post on this thread) the 5 s-s cards that I have added to
the basic set....hence, I now have 406 cards....it's that simple.

So, I need 3 (basic cards) and 1 s-s (Cobb) to give me a grand total of 410 cards.


For anyone reading this who is unfamiliar with the term "super-prints" as applied to the T206 cards, the fol-
lowing scan shows these 6 cards. Scot Reader identified these 6 subjects from the 350/460 series as having
been printed with more backs than any other T206's. Also, these subjects are unique within their series, as
they can be found with American Beauty 350 (with frame) backs. None of the other subjects in the 350/460
series exist with this back.

TED Z

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Posted By: Gilbert Maines

I do not know Ted, can you beat that?
Or is the Sovereign back collection the least expensive T206 back approach (independent of the number of cards involved)? I guess the Cobb back set wouldn't count.

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Posted By: leon

It means "Congratulations" in Yiddish....a form of Hebrew...

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Posted By: Ted Zanidakis

That is a very good question that you have just asked......"Or is the Sovereign back collection the least expensive T206 back approach".

Off the top of my head, I'd say....for starters, if you can avoid the high cost of the Big Six and the 48 So. Lgers (as is certainly true with
this Sovereign set)....then, for a T206 sub-set of 400+ cards, this one has to be the most affordable.

Now, don't ask me how many $$$$ I have spent acquiring all these cards ?

I can say for sure, it was less expensive than when I put together my all-Piedmont set.

TED Z

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Posted By: E, Daniel

It means 'Good Luck', in actual Hebrew , but the inference of its use is to congratulate someone.



Daniel

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Posted By: Dan Bretta

Nicely done Ted!!!

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Posted By: Jim VB

Ted,

You're pulling our leg, right? There is no way, that a grown man, living in the greater NYC area, could not know the meaning of Mazel tov.

Maybe you need to get out more!

Congrats on the near set!

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Posted By: Jerry

Congratulations Ted,
Thats what it's all about. I bet your smiling like a cheshire cat.
I just won my first Sovereign 460 card on Barry's auction tonight. The Duffy GAI-6
Regards
Jerry

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Posted By: Alan

Here are all of us on the forum saying Mazel Tov to you, Ted

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tz2o0OYjVzU&mode=related&search=

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Posted By: leon

My understanding is Germanic, at that....but lets get back to cards...

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Posted By: JimB

Ted,
That is awesome! Congrats! So do you still have the Piedmont set? Are you going for a T206 super set, one back at a time?
Has anybody ever attempted that?
JimB

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Posted By: anthony

impressive...and nice cards to boot!

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Posted By: Ted Zanidakis

Yes, I still have my all-PIEDMONT set of 518 cards. This all-SOVEREIGN set is my 4th T206 set in the past 26 years.

Has anyone ever put together a T206 "Super-Set"....I would think Bill Heitman has had enough T206's in his research
back in the '70s that he, perhaps advertently (or inadvertently), accumulated enough T206's to have one.

I have now started on a sub-set of AMERICAN BEAUTY 460 cards. It's a challenge; however, it's a small undertaking
as there are only 75-100 possible subjects to collect.

Thanks for your nice words,

TED Z

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Posted By: Drew

Nice going Ted. Best of luck with the American Beauty set. They are one of my favorite backs.

Drew

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Posted By: peter ullman

way to go Ted...that's quite the accomplishment...to add to your many others. Here's a tiny bit of inspiration for your next endeavor!


pete ullman

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Posted By: Ted Zanidakis

PETER

For the moment I am content to just collect the AB 460 cards. But, you never know, at some point I might become interested
in collecting all the AB 350 backs, too.

I now have about 25 of the 350's.

TED Z

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Posted By: John

Ted, from one T206 guy to another my hats off to you. Way to go, enjoy them I know you will.

Hey Ted, what’s next??

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Posted By: Ted Zanidakis

As I have said, I am currently acquiring American Beauty 460 cards. I like the GREEN colored backs....and perhaps, I'll eventually acquire
a Red Cobb with a "GREEN back"....HA, HA ! !

TED Z

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Posted By: judson hamlin

Nicely done, sir.

Good hunting at Reading-- see you there.

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Posted By: Ted Zanidakis

I do hope to see you at the Philly Show in Reading....Oct 12-14.

And, I will have T206's with SOVEREIGN backs....Graded and "naked".

Joe....what day will you be at Reading ?

TED Z

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Posted By: Ted Zanidakis

I've been very fortunate these past 11 months while putting together this set, as there've been 3 large Sovereign finds.
One from upstate NY (340 cards), a second in Connecticut (approx. 300 cards), and a third from western Pennsylvania
(280 cards). So, I'd say without these three finds, I would be at best only 50% complete at this point in time.

More importantly, I would be remiss, if I did not list all the Net54er's that have helped me with acquiring many of these
Sovereign's for my set. So, here goes....THANKS GUYS.....

Scot Reader
Barry Sloate
Brian Weisner
Steve Murray
Art Martineau
Scott Brockelman
Lee Behrens
Ed McCollum
Judson Hamlin
T206Collector

And, Irv Lerner, Peter Lalos, and Al Schiff

TED Z

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Posted By: judson hamlin

Glad to have been of help, Ted. I'll be at Reading on Friday.

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Posted By: Scot Reader

Ted,
It is a noteworthy achievement.
You are most certainly welcome for whatever help I was able to provide.
Scot

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Posted By: Ted Zanidakis

SCOT R

Thanks for all the times you contacted me regarding a Sovereign card on ebay. I won 75% of them and that helped a lot.
But, most of all....thanks for all your research and analysis which you did and is very well documented in your T206 book.
Reading your book inspired me to put together my all-Piedmont set and now this Sovereign set

TED Z.

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Posted By: Alan

Judson - The Reading show is NOT this Friday. It is Oct 12-14.
Ted - Will you be there as usual ?

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Posted By: Ted Zanidakis

ALAN

I'm sure Judson knows the dates of the Reading Show. He is simply noting that he will be there the Friday nite.

Yes, I will be there in my usual spot.

TED Z

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Posted By: Corey R. Shanus

Nice job Ted. Quite an accomplishment.

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Posted By: Jerry Hrechka

Congratulations Ted on a wonderfull achievement.

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Posted By: judson hamlin

Maybe I just like hanging out in Reading...

Nah, I meant the 12th

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Posted By: Ted Zanidakis

Regarding your earlier question......"Are you going for a T206 super set, one back at a time?"......

I think the challenge of doing this nowadays would be an enormous undertaking for any one individual to try.
Back in the 1960's and '70s when Bill Heitman (and others) were accumulating 10's of 1000's of T206's for just
"pennies", it was very possible.

However, to do this now in a sequential manner (as you alluded to with your question) is virtually impossible.
Perhaps, my Grandson (21 years old) could carry on this "baton", and assemble a T206 Super Set by age 40.

However, in a multi-collector, parallel manner, it is not impossible. And, that is exactly what is ongoing with
several Net54 members.

I have a "complete" 518-card all-Piedmont set (missing the Big 4) and will soon have a complete 410-card
all-Sovereign set. Meanwhile, Lee Behrens has a near complete CYCLE 460 sub-set and last time I checked,
RayB is putting together an El Principe de Gales set. And, I am sure there are other Net54er's doing their
favorite T-brand sub-set.

And, now I've embarked on an American Beauty 460 set; and, I'm sure that I'll eventually expand this quest
to an all-American Beauty sub-set. Just with these five examples that I have noted here, we are proceeding
onwards; but, we need a lot more participants in this big adventure.

Thanks for asking,

TED Z

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Posted By: Richard

I wasn't aware that any collector had accumulated over 10,000 T206. That is almost unimaginable!

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Posted By: Ted Zanidakis

"Mr T206"....Bill Heitman....probably went thru 50,000 to 100,000 T206's before he published his book
on this set called "The Monster".

I, myself, have gone thru 20,000 - 25,000 T206's since 1980......and, at any given point in time, I've
had as many as 2000 of these cards in my collection.

TED Z

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Posted By: Ted Zanidakis

I acquired a Campbell....so, now I need the following 3 cards; and, any help will really be
appreciated.....email me at.....tedzan11@comcast.net

Ball (NY).........150 series
Jim Collins.......350 series
Red Cobb........460 series (super-print)

Thanks everyone,

TED Z

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Posted By: RayB

My sincerest congratulations! Completely awesome! The back specific set is a wonder to behold and 400+ Sovereigns in the same book must look awefully impressive.
Your tenacity on this type of endeavor is admired.
My best.
RayB

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Posted By: Ted Zanidakis

Thanks guy....

Tell me, how is your El Principe de Gales set progressing ?

TED Z

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Posted By: Ted Zanidakis

How's the CYCLE 460 set doing ?

I realize it's tough; but, I figure you should have this T-brand nearly complete by now.

TED Z

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Posted By: RayB

Ted - Thanks. A little slow lately. I'm just shy of 70 different. I'm not willing to buy or "bid to win" at all costs and I'm also passing on some of the higher grade examples due to cost.
Pigeon holing myself a bit like this slows the wheels of progress but it is fun. I traded for a nice Wagner bat on Right Shoulder today with a collector that is building a Polar Bear back specific set.
So I am sure there are others who haven't outed themselves on their back specific efforts.
Do you have any additions to the EPDG spreadsheet over the last couple of months? I could use an update if you have one.
If you just want to bring the EPDG thread back to the top updated that would be fine too.
Warm regards,
RayB

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Posted By: Ted Zanidakis

As you noted, I have started a new Thread listing 276 confirmed EPDG subjects in the T206 set. Please ex-
amine it closely and compare it with your collection; and, tell me if you have any additional ones.

I was very fortunate in completiing my Piedmont and my Sovereign sets. In the process I purchased 2 large
Piedmont finds. And, while I was assembling the Sovereign set, there were 3 Sovereign finds, from which I
acquired a lot of cards.

Unless, a big find of 100 - 200 EPDG cards are discovered, your your task will certainly be more difficult in
finding approx. 300 cards with EPDG backs. All our previous Surveys have shown how tough this T-brand is.
Just be patient, it will take you several years and it will be worth it. Email me your list and I will try to help
you with these T206's.

Good luck,

TED Z

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Posted By: Ted Zanidakis

I acquired several Sovereign cards for my T206 set at the Philly Show this past weekend. The two that I needed (Ball and Jimmy Collins),
and 6 upgrades.

So, I'm now in need of only one....the elusive Red Cobb with a SOVEREIGN 460 back.

I'm beginning to think this card is scarcer than the Red Cobb/Ty Cobb back....at least 12 of them are known. Only TWO such Cobb's with
a Sov 460 back have been confirmed.

Therefore, if there are any sightings of this Cobb by any Net54ers, please contact me.










Thanks,

TED Z

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Posted By: George Gogol

Ted,
Congrats on the accomplishment, no small feat! Thanks for sharing your research along the way, and I will keep eyes and ears open for the elusive red background Cobb. Take care.