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10-28-2002, 04:17 AM
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Breakin' out! Whad'ya think about.......
Posted By: T206Monsta
...cracking open a PSA "1" that appears to be graded so based on the technical definition. It's a HOFer. The back has some staining and the card does have a crease (however not overt) but the corners and edges etc. look pretty good making the card ungraded a VG-VG+ (from my short 25+ years collecting) and I would've guessed a PSA 3 at least. The worst nightmares get a "1" and this isn't even close. If I knew it was coming back a 1-2, I wouldn't have paid to have it done. Have any of you had this experience. It seems like the opposite extreme of the grading. I don't think breaking it out could hurt. 
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10-28-2002, 11:50 AM
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Breakin' out! Whad'ya think about.......
Posted By: Julie Vognar
There was a GAI 2 Gypsy Queeen Pud Galvin that went for about $2000 in the Sports Cards Plus Auction. And I'm sure Wayne Varner had no trouble getting rid of his 19th century horde, graded low becasuse of back damage, last month.
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10-28-2002, 11:56 AM
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Breakin' out! Whad'ya think about.......
Posted By: David
It's your choice, as there are obvious pros and cons. As you feel the grade is off, the holder essentially works as a grade of 'authentic.' .... To me, it would all come down to how it would effect the sell price. If I thought the grade was bad (high or low), I would likely remove the card.
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10-28-2002, 12:16 PM
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Posted By: David
If the grade is bad whether too high or too low, I think the any card should be removed from the holder. I'm talking about bad grading, not the typical bellyaching over 6 versus a 7. I don't see how bad grades, no matter how official and registered, is a benifit to the hobby. This is for the same reason that a counterfeit should be removed from the holder asap.
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10-28-2002, 06:02 PM
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Breakin' out! Whad'ya think about.......
Posted By: Paul
I'd break it out of its holder. I bought a PSA 1 Cracker Jack Walter Johnson from Teletrade that was absolutely beautiful. It had two tiny white chips in the red background, almost unnoticeable. I guess PSA thought they were staple holes. When I broke it out, it was clear there was just the tiniest bit of ink missing. It's one of my favorite cards and would probably be graded Ex-Mt by any seller. If I wanted to sell it, I could sell it for more now than when it was in the holder. So I don't see any benefit to the holder.
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10-29-2002, 08:56 AM
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Breakin' out! Whad'ya think about.......
Posted By: Dan Mathewson
...as I have said before, I'm not impressed with SGC and PSA trying to prove "who can be the toughest" and I think most of their grades the last couple years have been low by a half or full grade. I base that ONLY on their own published scales and descriptions of each class within the scale. I also base it on cards that each co. graded some years back (under the SAME criteria) that are not consistent with their grading today...in many cases, a full point difference. I'd crack it out. Send it to someone else. I don't use PSA or SGC anymore.
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