SGC is, with their new labels, balancing valuation with PSA. HARSH. Watch Video...

[luciobar1980]

Man, these cards are all on the harsh side.

The Hack Wilson especially, was sold as a raw EX-MT by Probstein:

(https://www.ebay.com/itm/1933-Goudey...rdt=true&rt=nc)

, and I still can't disagree with them. An SGC 4.

Why is the Tris Speaker an A and not a 1? On the form I indicated "no", I don't want you to encapsulate an A card.. am I missing something?

1960 Topps McCovey I thought was a 6 all day. SGC 5.

The RObinson is the only one in the ballpark of what I expected.. this card was previously a BVG 5.5. SGC 5.

(Sorry for having the camera off-center for most of the video.):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0Hw...ature=youtu.be

[Leon]

There are some things that a magnifier will pick up which will show you why they are graded the way they are, would be my guess. Great looking cards.

[luciobar1980]

Ok, that's all well and good, as I even joke about not having a magnifying glass on me. Even still, I honestly believe SGC is trying to rebrand and reposition themselves with the new flip and harsher grading.

But, can someone once and for all explain why the Speaker is an A and not a 1, when I said NOT to encapsulate an A card on their form?

[bensie]

Originally Posted by luciobar1980

Ok, that's all well and good, as I even joke about not having a magnifying glass on me. Even still, I honestly believe SGC is trying to rebrand and reposition themselves with the new flip and harsher grading.

But, can someone once and for all explain why the Speaker is an A and not a 1, when I said NOT to encapsulate an A card on their form?

Because they made a mistake?

[luciobar1980]

Originally Posted by bensie

Because they made a mistake?

Did they? Because I honestly was unsure about it. Does it mean they think the card is altered, or not necessarily? It has pinholes but I cant imagine it's been altered (attempt at improvement) to be honest.

I'm sure there is something I'm missing on these cards, but that being said, still harshly graded IMO.

I'll be curious to hear more opinions when people start getting back SGC cards in the near future.

[luciobar1980]

I am almost ashamed to say it, but would a partial refund be a possibility/reasonable from Probstein on the Hack Wilson? They graded it EX-Mt, came back a 4.

[SetBuilder]

Surface gloss is one of the factors in grading. So it's not just corners and centering, but the surface quality. Harder to gauge than most variables.

[KCRfan1]

Great looking cards!

Despite the grades, if you ever decide to sell them, some potential buyers / buyers will look past the grades and focus solely on the card itself.

They'll buy the card, not the holder.

Niced cards will still bring the price.

[ullmandds]

I just got some results from my latest sgc submissions...and am quite disappointed on a few as well!! I finally got my cj wajo graded...and was not happy!!!

[Throttlesteer]

I think all TPG are trying to tighten up. Nobody wants the reputation for being the softest. What I've learned is, the toughest grades are on this forum.

[luciobar1980]

Yeah, I really think this is the case, and why not start tightening up to coincide with the new labels?

Originally Posted by Throttlesteer

I think all TPG are trying to tighten up. Nobody wants the reputation for being the softest. What I've learned is, the toughest grades are on this forum.

[661fish]

I hope they don't go like PSA or I will just have to keep my 53 Bowman set raw.

[luciobar1980]

I'd be curious to see the card! Post pics if you can!

Originally Posted by ullmandds

I just got some results from my latest sgc submissions...and am quite disappointed on a few as well!! I finally got my cj wajo graded...and was not happy!!!

[Big Six]

I agree that the OP took a big risk buying raw...and that the cards are still great cards. And I’m blown away by Pat’s research...but, I know SGC doesn’t automatically grade pin holes with an A. I can assure you Mr. Grove has a hole.




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[RedsFan1941]

call SGC and pose your questions to them about the “A” grade and why they slabbed it when you apparently asked them not to. whining on a message board is much more satisfying, I guess.

[luciobar1980]

Who's whining? You? Grow up.

Originally Posted by RedsFan1941

call SGC and pose your questions to them about the “A” grade and why they slabbed it when you apparently asked them not to. whining on a message board is much more satisfying, I guess.