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Old 09-17-2018, 10:27 PM
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I'm reminded daily how much tougher PSA and SGC are getting with grades. Nothing against this card, it's a nice WaJo. But, I wonder if this could get a 2 now, let alone a 3

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Old 09-17-2018, 10:28 PM
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Lower-end 2, high-end 1.5
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Which is precisely the reason for the oft-repeated phrase, "buy the card and not the holder." If it has a pleasing appearance to you when you buy it as a discriminating collector, chances are another will feel the same in the event you decide to sell it.

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I agree with Greg on this one.
1.5 with a purple sticker or a 2, today. Nice looking card though.

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I'm reminded daily how much tougher PSA and SGC are getting with grades. Nothing against this card, it's a nice WaJo. But, I wonder if this could get a 2 now, let alone a 3

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The inconsistency of the TPG'ers kinda renders their "opinions" useless...to me!!!
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I opened the link expecting to see something I thought was VG, but honestly I'm surprised that ever got a "3." any one of the issues (heavily rounded corners, semi circle crease, light paper loss) could've dinged it to a "3" all of them together and I feel it's a "2" all the way.

Does anyone else have the experience of creasing a card the way the Wajo is? usually it's on the top and comes from pushing it into a holder to forecfully, and yes, I've done it. Instant semi-circle crease.
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Are they tougher on paper loss now? I've seen cards with the same amount of paper loss on the back get a "1" and this one has it right on his chin which totally takes away from the eye appeal for me. I would not buy that card at a "3" price. The crease and rounded corners I don't mind at all and I'm not even sure I'd buy that at a "1.5" price because of where the paper loss is. Now, if the paper loss like that was on the back or somewhere else on the front (not on his face) and it was graded a "1.5" then that's right up my alley.
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Just curious - do people think that the tougher grading today is 1) more strict adherence to the grading standards set years ago which haven't changed or 2) a shift in the grading standards from those originally set forth?
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Just curious - do people think that the tougher grading today is 1) more strict adherence to the grading standards set years ago which haven't changed or 2) a shift in the grading standards from those originally set forth?
1&2 sound kinda the same to me??
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My wajo is a 3.5 because of the stain on the back. You can't tell me there is only a .05 difference lol. Horrible grading on that 3

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Your card looks like a 5.5 to my eye. However, with the slightly slanted top, it might take a couple of submissions to get into a PSA holder. They are getting really tight on "factory miscuts," cards that are not perfect rectangles. I had two Mantles that just got returned ungraded due to that type of miscut.
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My wajo is a 3.5 because of the stain on the back. You can't tell me there is only a .05 difference lol. Horrible grading on that 3

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Old 09-22-2018, 11:24 AM
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Do we know if PSA’s published grading standards have changed at all or do you gentlemen feel the more conservative recent grading is purely the result of the individual grader’s or the company’s discretion?
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