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Old 03-17-2009, 07:17 PM
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Default Starnagle not - Colgan contoversy (unnecessarily) revisited

Posted By: Mark Fimoff

This post revisits a disussion that originated on 5/08:
http://tinyurl.com/ca8sam

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And - the ears don't match.

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Posted By: PC

The head angles are not exactly the same. In the picture on the left, he is looking slightly up, which would account for the ear appearing lower than the ear in the right picture.

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Old 03-17-2009, 08:06 PM
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Posted By: Mark Fimoff

The head angles (you are referring to nodding) are virtually the same - within a few degrees (you can see nostrils in both photos), and nowhere near enough to account for the large difference in ear height.

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The player identified as "Field" is actually Michael Joyce.

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Old 03-17-2009, 09:19 PM
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Posted By: Mark Fimoff

What's funny is I could have saved some artwork time since I have that same pic of Joyce in the 1907 Spalding Guide.

Nice find Dan.

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Old 03-17-2009, 09:30 PM
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Posted By: Rhett Yeakley

Mark, thanks for bringing up the old thread that makes me look bad! (joking)

A few weeks after posting the initial thread I was able to put Joyce and "Field" together (I corrected myself in the later one), please read below...

http://www.network54.com/Forum/153652/thread/1215477306/E254+%26quot%3BField%26quot%3B+Identification+--+%28Revisited%29

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Posted By: Mark Fimoff

Rhett - I didn't make you look bad - I made my thread searching skills look bad. You did find the right answer in the end.

Anyway here's Montreal 1906, including Joyce and Honus' brother.

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Posted By: Rhett Yeakley

Mark, actually, I am very glad you posted that picture because I have been looking for a photo of "Butts" Wagner to compare to the 1898 Cameo Pepsin pin of the Toronto team that I have.

Butts made one of his first minor league stops in Toronto and I wanted to see if he was pictured on the Toronto item below. From the crappy photos I could find he looked "the most like" the guy in the very middle (right above Arthur Irwin's head). Let me know what you think in regard to the 1897 Toronto team pictured on the 1898 Cameo Pepsin pin.

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Posted By: Mark Fimoff

Rhett,

I'm sure I don't see him on your pin (nice scan).

Here's my only other image of Albert Wagner, from the '03 Providence team composite -
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Posted By: davidcycleback

If George had played for the Red Sox instead of the Indians, he would have been the Boston Starnagle.

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