T227 Series of Champions Enigma

[dgyshcc]

Spring Robert Edwards Auction has both a Rodgers and a Brown T227 up for auction

[Beansballcardblog]

The Brown?

HOLY CRAP ON A CRACKER!

Originally Posted by dgyshcc

Spring Robert Edwards Auction has both a Rodgers and a Brown T227 up for auction

[Marslife]

just ran across this: David Loney Bruce-Brown's great Grandfather was J.P. Lorrilard! Perhaps this has something to do with the short print?

here is a link to the .pdf:

https://www.firstsuperspeedway.com/s...compressed.pdf

[G1911]

Whether causation or coincidence, that is a very interesting discovery!



I have wondered if we have it flipped upside down, and Rodgers and Brown were not removed but rather were late additions.

The latest date on any other card is December 1, 1911 on Abe Attell. Most of the biographies end in mid-late 1911, with only a couple exceptions (like Jack Johnson not going past July 4, 1910, a remnant of hijacking his T218/9 write-ups).

Rodgers card mentions his death in April of 1912 (thus, he clearly wasn't pulled because he died - they knew that before even finalizing his card). The last race mentioned on the back of Brown's card was in June of 1912, placing these several months after all of the other subjects biographies ends. It seems off to me, unlikely these two were available at the very beginning of production and quickly pulled. That's a very long lead time.

[Kidnapped18]

Does anyone has a list of PSA certs that designates backs? (ie HLC or ME)
If so please share email or pm what you have on each subject
I've begun a list and was wondering if one already exists
Here is what I have on Attell:

Abe Attell (Pugilist) (31) 19 out of 31
PSA 5 (1)
(1) - #11051512 (Honest LONG CUT) (#3)

PSA 4.5 (1)
(2) - # (Honest LONG CUT/MINERS EXTRA) (#1)

PSA 4 (1)
(3) - # (Honest LONG CUT/MINERS EXTRA)

PSA 3 (3)
(4) - #23373926 (MINERS EXTRA)
(5) - # (Honest LONG CUT/MINERS EXTRA) (Mark’s T227’s)
(6) - # (Honest LONG CUT/MINERS EXTRA)

PSA 3Q (1)
(7) - #23373927 (MK) (MINERS EXTRA)

PSA 2.5 (1)
(8) - # (Honest LONG CUT/MINERS EXTRA) (RAS)

PSA 2 (8)
(9) - #04541013 (Honest LONG CUT/MINERS EXTRA) (PRIVATE)
(10) - #14148594 (Honest LONG CUT/MINERS EXTRA)
(11) - #20515533 (Honest LONG CUT/MINERS EXTRA)
(12) - #40871327 (MINERS EXTRA)
(13) - #52025305 (Honest LONG CUT)
(14) - #77675359 (Honest LONG CUT)
(15) - # (Honest LONG CUT/MINERS EXTRA)
(16) - # (Honest LONG CUT/MINERS EXTRA)

PSA 1.5 (3)
(17) - #23101203 (Honest LONG CUT)
(18) - # (Honest LONG CUT/MINERS EXTRA)
(19) - # (Honest LONG CUT/MINERS EXTRA)

PSA 1 (8)
(20) - #15116672 (Honest LONG CUT) (#6)
(21) - #15815830 (Honest LONG CUT/MINERS EXTRA)
(22) - #20948928 (Honest LONG CUT/MINERS EXTRA)
(23) - #21369562 (MINERS EXTRA) (#4)
(24) - #23042722 (Honest LONG CUT/MINERS EXTRA)
(25) - #24654836 (MINERS EXTRA) #8
(26) - #65251135 (Honest LONG CUT)
(27) - #71111148 (Honest LONG CUT)
(28) - # (Honest LONG CUT/MINERS EXTRA)
(29) - # (Honest LONG CUT/MINERS EXTRA)

PSA 1Q (2)
(30) - #08191719 (MK)( MINERS EXTRA) (PRIVATE)
(31) - # (Honest LONG CUT/MINERS EXTRA)

[Marslife]

Yes! there is hope for new finds :-)

found by my T227 buddy Todd March:

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[Leon]

Originally Posted by Marslife

Yes! there is hope for new finds :-)

found by my T227 buddy Todd March:

Attachment 617936

Nice. There is still quite a bit out there!
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