NonSports Forum

Net54baseball.com
Welcome to Net54baseball.com. These forums are devoted to both Pre- and Post- war baseball cards and vintage memorabilia, as well as other sports. There is a separate section for Buying, Selling and Trading - the B/S/T area!! If you write anything concerning a person or company your full name needs to be in your post or obtainable from it. . Contact the moderator at leon@net54baseball.com should you have any questions or concerns. When you click on links to eBay on this site and make a purchase, this can result in this site earning a commission. Affiliate programs and affiliations include, but are not limited to, the eBay Partner Network. Enjoy!
Net54baseball.com
Net54baseball.com
ebay GSB
T206s on eBay
Babe Ruth Cards on eBay
t206 Ty Cobb on eBay
Ty Cobb Cards on eBay
Lou Gehrig Cards on eBay
Baseball T201-T217 on eBay
Baseball E90-E107 on eBay
T205 Cards on eBay
Baseball Postcards on eBay
Goudey Cards on eBay
Baseball Memorabilia on eBay
Baseball Exhibit Cards on eBay
Baseball Strip Cards on eBay
Baseball Baking Cards on eBay
Sporting News Cards on eBay
Play Ball Cards on eBay
Joe DiMaggio Cards on eBay
Mickey Mantle Cards on eBay
Bowman 1951-1955 on eBay
Football Cards on eBay

Go Back   Net54baseball.com Forums > Net54baseball Main Forum - WWII & Older Baseball Cards > Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 04-05-2018, 03:01 PM
Hankphenom Hankphenom is offline
Hank Thomas
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 2,538
Default Amazing WaJo PC discovery

Recently found in the files of the museum in Weiser, Idaho.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg Johnson, Walter panorama.jpg (78.9 KB, 831 views)
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 04-05-2018, 03:10 PM
53Browns's Avatar
53Browns 53Browns is offline
Bill
Member
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Kentucky
Posts: 633
Default

Fantastic!!! I love the baseball reference written on the back as well.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 04-05-2018, 03:10 PM
packs packs is offline
Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 8,394
Default

WOW! Would make a great brother to my Walter J (not Rose, I wish). Mine was written just a few months earlier and coincidentally, was written on his way to Detroit to play the Tigers after completing a series against Cleveland:


Last edited by packs; 04-05-2018 at 03:11 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 04-05-2018, 03:18 PM
JeremyW's Avatar
JeremyW JeremyW is offline
Jeremy W.
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Midwest
Posts: 1,017
Default

Hopefully, they move that jewel from the files to a prominent display.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 04-05-2018, 03:24 PM
T206Collector's Avatar
T206Collector T206Collector is offline
Paul
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 4,588
Default

Wonderful! Really beautiful. Thank you so much for sharing. Depending on how you consider postcards, this would be a signed Johnson baseball card that is earlier than my signed T206 card from 1910.

Johnson_SGC_A
__________________
Galleries and Articles about T206 Player Autographs
www.SignedT206.com

www.instagram.com/signedT206/
@SignedT206
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 04-05-2018, 03:54 PM
Hankphenom Hankphenom is offline
Hank Thomas
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 2,538
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by T206Collector View Post
Wonderful! Really beautiful. Thank you so much for sharing. Depending on how you consider postcards, this would be a signed Johnson baseball card that is earlier than my signed T206 card from 1910.

Johnson_SGC_A
I'm always blown away to see that. Wonder if there's a signed portrait out there somewhere?
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 04-05-2018, 03:59 PM
prewarsports prewarsports is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 1,547
Default

Thats crazy. I live near Weiser and visit there often. I would not have imagined anything like this existed still in the town, but that is a fantastic discovery!
__________________
Be sure to check out my site www.RMYAuctions.com
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 04-05-2018, 04:51 PM
T206Collector's Avatar
T206Collector T206Collector is offline
Paul
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 4,588
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hankphenom View Post
I'm always blown away to see that. Wonder if there's a signed portrait out there somewhere?
That would be a sight to see, for sure.

Didn’t you once tell me you saw a signed T3 at the HOF?

We are all so lucky to have your substantial continued contributions to the legend that is your grandfather!
__________________
Galleries and Articles about T206 Player Autographs
www.SignedT206.com

www.instagram.com/signedT206/
@SignedT206

Last edited by T206Collector; 04-05-2018 at 04:59 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 04-05-2018, 03:20 PM
Baseball Rarities's Avatar
Baseball Rarities Baseball Rarities is offline
K3v1n Stru55
member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: California
Posts: 1,183
Default

Wow. That is absolutely incredible. A 1908 Rose Co. postcard signed by the man himself.

Hank - Do you know who Edith was?

Last edited by Baseball Rarities; 04-05-2018 at 04:58 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 04-05-2018, 03:49 PM
Hankphenom Hankphenom is offline
Hank Thomas
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 2,538
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Baseball Rarities View Post
Wow. That is absolutely incredible. A signed 1908 Rose Co. postcard signed by the man himself.

Hank - Do you know who Edith was?
According to the museum, hers was a well-known family in Weiser, but have apparently all moved away. They also found a letter to her from Walter not long long before he died in 1946 responding to a letter from her:

(letter from Walter Johnson to Edith Sater Allen)
Germantown, Md.
Jan. 15,1946
Dear Edith:
Was sure good to hear from you. I have wondered lots and
lots of times where and how you were.
I did hear that you lost your husband. Yes, I live here on a
farm about twenty-five miles from D.C.
I guess I am not too much different than when you saw me
last, only of course some older.
I lost my wife sixteen years ago. She left me five children to
raise, and I managed to bring them up such as they are. All
went to college only two finished.
My baby is in college now she is nineteen. All married and
have children except her.
I am a grandfather six times and like it.
Please write and tell me all about yourself.
How many children did you have, and how long have you
been in Tacoma? You know I went to Weiser from Tacoma. I
would give a lot to sit down and talk old times with you.
I hope you are real well and will write me all about yourself.
As ever
Walter
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 04-05-2018, 04:00 PM
MVSNYC MVSNYC is offline
Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 3,547
Default

Hank, just fantastic!

The letter referencing his children and grandchildren must be especially touching for you.

I actually didn’t know his wife passed away that early, and he was left to raise 5 children, wow. Incredible man.
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 04-05-2018, 04:10 PM
Hankphenom Hankphenom is offline
Hank Thomas
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 2,538
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by MVSNYC View Post
Hank, just fantastic!

The letter referencing his children and grandchildren must be especially touching for you.

I actually didn’t know his wife passed away that early, and he was left to raise 5 children, wow. Incredible man.
Yes, that was the great tragedy of his life when she died in 1930 at the age of 36. His mother came from Coffeyville to help with the family, bringing along the two young boys of Walter's sister Blanche, who had died in 1928. So that made 7 children Walter had to provide for, including my mother, who is still with us. Of course, I love the personal content. He mentions his six grandchildren, and I was number 7, born in April that year, the last born before he died in December. I hear there's a terrific book about his life, "Walter Johnson: Baseball's Big Train."
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 04-06-2018, 08:50 AM
Fred's Avatar
Fred Fred is offline
Fred
Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 3,016
Default

Hank, is the letter content indicated below (My baby is in college now she is nineteen) in reference to your mom?




Quote:
Originally Posted by Hankphenom View Post
According to the museum, hers was a well-known family in Weiser, but have apparently all moved away. They also found a letter to her from Walter not long long before he died in 1946 responding to a letter from her:

(letter from Walter Johnson to Edith Sater Allen)
Germantown, Md.
Jan. 15,1946
Dear Edith:
Was sure good to hear from you. I have wondered lots and
lots of times where and how you were.
I did hear that you lost your husband. Yes, I live here on a
farm about twenty-five miles from D.C.
I guess I am not too much different than when you saw me
last, only of course some older.
I lost my wife sixteen years ago. She left me five children to
raise, and I managed to bring them up such as they are. All
went to college only two finished.
My baby is in college now she is nineteen. All married and
have children except her.
I am a grandfather six times and like it.
Please write and tell me all about yourself.
How many children did you have, and how long have you
been in Tacoma? You know I went to Weiser from Tacoma. I
would give a lot to sit down and talk old times with you.
I hope you are real well and will write me all about yourself.
As ever
Walter
__________________
fr3d c0wl3s - always looking for OJs and other 19th century stuff. PM or email me if you have something
cool you're looking to find a new home for.
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 04-06-2018, 09:17 AM
Jobu's Avatar
Jobu Jobu is offline
Bry@n
member
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: WI
Posts: 3,736
Default

Thanks for posting this Hank!

I stirred a lot of this up when I contacted Hank and the kind folks at the museum to see if they had any good pictures of the Weiser team's uniforms or the player's faces while I researched one of my RPPCs (below). The uniforms have subtle differences but are really close to the uniform shown in the famous Weiser RPPC of WaJo (not mine) and in one of the pictures of the Weiser team in Hank's book (not mine). There are subtle differences, but looking at the pictures below and the uniforms at the museum that Hank posted, it seems that the team changed uniforms frequently in their six (?) years of existence. The Weiser team was created in 1906 and the stamp box ids my RPPC as being from 1908-1910, so it is in the right window. Obviously no WaJo in the picture otherwise it would be easy.

Anyway, back to the Rose PC. When I called last fall the nice woman to whom I spoke said that there were two letters that had recently been donated to the museum that are from the grandchildren of the woman that was Walter's sweetheart when he lived in Weiser. She said he sent them to her not long after he moved away. I had no idea one was a Rose PC (!!), though I have been anxiously waiting to see them.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg Poss Weiser RPPC c.jpg (71.0 KB, 333 views)
File Type: jpg 1907 Weiser photo from Hank Thomas 2.jpg (69.2 KB, 328 views)
File Type: jpg Weiser Cabinet.jpg (34.4 KB, 330 views)
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 04-06-2018, 10:30 AM
Hankphenom Hankphenom is offline
Hank Thomas
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 2,538
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Fred View Post
Hank, is the letter content indicated below (My baby is in college now she is nineteen) in reference to your mom?
No, my aunt Barbara, who was the youngest. Mom was 22 at the time, married to my Dad, who was in the Army Air Corps, and had had my sister and was very pregnant with me. This is my Mom.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg 5--Mom Hollywood Studio Portrait c. 1942.jpg (74.3 KB, 318 views)

Last edited by Hankphenom; 04-06-2018 at 10:32 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 04-05-2018, 03:39 PM
Hankphenom Hankphenom is offline
Hank Thomas
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 2,538
Default

[QUOTE=packs;1764682]WOW! Would make a great brother to my Walter J (not Rose, I wish). Mine was written just a few months earlier and coincidentally, was written on his way to Detroit to play the Tigers after completing a series against Cleveland:

I had yours at one time, in fact had two of the three in the "set." I always thought they were fantastic for being so early, the earliest known Johnson signatures, I would think.
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 04-05-2018, 03:44 PM
clydepepper's Avatar
clydepepper clydepepper is offline
Raymond 'Robbie' Culpepper
Member
 
Join Date: May 2014
Location: Columbus, GA
Posts: 6,941
Default

AMAZING Hank! Thanks for sharing!
__________________
.
"A life is not important except in the impact it has on others lives" - Jackie Robinson

“If you have a chance to make life better for others and fail to do so, you are wasting your time on this earth.”- Roberto Clemente
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 04-05-2018, 09:24 PM
orly57's Avatar
orly57 orly57 is offline
Orlando Rodriguez
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: Miami
Posts: 979
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by packs View Post
WOW! Would make a great brother to my Walter J (not Rose, I wish). Mine was written just a few months earlier and coincidentally, was written on his way to Detroit to play the Tigers after completing a series against Cleveland:

Nice packs! What's on the front?
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 04-06-2018, 07:09 AM
packs packs is offline
Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 8,394
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by orly57 View Post
Nice packs! What's on the front?
The front is a picture of the boat the team rode into Detroit. My postcard reads:

Hello Johnnie,

We won a game today. We came over to Detroit on this boat. It only cost one and a half million dollars. It's sure a fine boat.

Walter J
Reply With Quote
Reply




Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Amazing E95 Discovery ErikV Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions 50 07-13-2022 08:09 PM
Amazing T206 discovery by Dean's Cards Bliggity Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions 19 12-28-2015 07:35 AM
John Rogers Archive Makes Amazing Discovery about Lou Gehrig Jersey in REA ChrisGalbreath Net54baseball Sports (Primarily) Vintage Memorabilia Forum incl. Game Used 1 05-07-2011 01:34 PM
John Rogers Archive Makes Amazing Discovery about Lou Gehrig Jersey in REA ChrisGalbreath Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions 0 05-07-2011 01:33 PM
1964 topps mantle all star coins amazing discovery Archive Postwar Baseball Cards Forum (Pre-1980) 6 02-18-2008 12:13 PM


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 10:56 AM.


ebay GSB