PWCC Huigens Now Has a Criminal Defense Attorney

[oldjudge]

Hopefully, Jeff’s involvement will lead to the exposure of all the criminals involved and their imprisonment. I think this ultimately will be a net positive for the hobby.

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Well if Jeff is representing some of the criminals I am going to go out on a limb and guess that he might be fighting against their imprisonment.

[asphaltman]

A little surpised by this...but then again...not so much.

How the hell is PWCC still actively selling on eBay?

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by asphaltman

A little surpised by this...but then again...not so much.

How the hell is PWCC still actively selling on eBay?

See my signature line.

[CMIZ5290]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

See my signature line.

This is absolutely unbelievable, Mind boggling, staggering....What about all of the threads and posts bashing PWCC that he made? Now, he's Huigen's attorney?? Wow, only in America I guess....What a crock of hypocritical bull shit.....

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by CMIZ5290

This is absolutely unbelievable, Mind boggling, staggering....What about all of the threads and posts bashing PWCC that he made? Now, he's Huigen's attorney?? Wow, only in America I guess....

I dont think its a big deal on that. He can do what he wants. In the real world he looks fine, more than fine actually. Sounds like can do big things actually with the hobby. I think many (not net54 posters but the people in the real world )would be envious of the job he will be doing. If he didnt take it there would of been TONS of others that would of wanted that job.

However, he loses just about every argument he says on net54 now with posters in the past given the hypocritical nature of all. Tough to know what he really believes

But if losing all arguments on net54 is the negative, the positive is the tons of money he will make and continue to buy cards most of us will never sniff and its just at the expense of being net54 bait..

Most people would choose the job and the money. Is net54 bait really that bad thing to be? Lots of people rather have the big money and the job..even if the job is stressful as he said....

[Mark17]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

However, he loses just about every argument he says on net54 now with posters in the past given the hypocritical nature of all. Tough to know what he really believes

Not sure if the word "believe" applies to lawyers. It is a term that seems to be relative to them, when a client comes calling.

[CMIZ5290]

Huigens is obviously doing this for two reasons- one, Lichtman's prowess as an attorney, and two, Lichtman's strong knowledge of the sports card trade. Having said that, can his public posts and tirades towards PWCC come back and haunt him in the end.....

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by CMIZ5290

Huigens is obviously doing this for two reasons- one, Lichtman's prowess as an attorney, and two, Lichtman's strong knowledge of the sports card trade. Having said that, can his public posts and tirades towards PWCC come back and haunt him in the end.....

The posts mean ZERO in the real world outside of net54 to me....he just looks bad on net54... for his case, zero impact..

[conor912]

Originally Posted by CMIZ5290

Huigens is obviously doing this for two reasons- one, Lichtman's prowess as an attorney, and two, Lichtman's strong knowledge of the sports card trade. Having said that, can his public posts and tirades towards PWCC come back and haunt him in the end.....

Take a look at previous threads. Would you be surprised if they've already been scrubbed? One of the first things I would have done is go back and wipe out the record of me shit talking my client on an open forum....

[wondo]

Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards

Well if Jeff is representing some of the criminals I am going to go out on a limb and guess that he might be fighting against their imprisonment.

Of course. Brent hires an adept attorney to help figure out the best way to save his ass. It may or may not have a positive long term affect on the hobby (as is being advertised), but I pretty certain Brent isn't interested in that. But if it does benefit the hobby and folks get restitution, the pitchforks will be lowered somewhat, which can only be a positive for Brent's future wardrobe.

[AGuinness]

Originally Posted by wondo

It may or may not have a positive long term affect on the hobby (as is being advertised), but I pretty certain Brent isn't interested in that.

Truer words have never been spoken. Brent isn't, hasn't and won't ever be interested in the long-term affect on the hobby.

[perezfan]

Originally Posted by AGuinness

Truer words have never been spoken. Brent isn't, hasn't and won't ever be interested in the long-term affect on the hobby.

Nope... just maximizing the money. And screwing collectors over, no matter what the cost.

His sad letter on conservation (once the waters got hot) is proof alone of this. And any “good deeds” he’s doing now (refunds + acknowledgement of misrepresentation) are being done at the firm instruction of his legal team.

A classic case of changing one’s tune, only because they were caught.

[asphaltman]

I'd have to go back to the beginning of the PWCC debacle. But could swear Jeff made not just one or two, but numerous comments negatively towards Brent. Ahh, to be a criminal defense attorney in the good ol' USA.

[slidekellyslide]

Originally Posted by asphaltman

I'd have to go back to the beginning of the PWCC debacle. But could swear Jeff made not just one or two, but numerous comments negatively towards Brent. Ahh, to be a criminal defense attorney in the good ol' USA.

Absolutely brilliant move by Brent and Betsy. They've bought the silence of one of their loudest critics, and likely the most powerful when it comes to connections with law enforcement.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by AGuinness

Truer words have never been spoken. Brent isn't, hasn't and won't ever be interested in the long-term affect on the hobby.

He's still up to no good, witness his recent attempt to sell the altered T3 Cobb even after he knew it was tainted. Had the consignor not insisted it be taken down, he would have sold it to some unsuspecting collector.

[slidekellyslide]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

He's still up to no good, witness his recent attempt to sell the altered T3 Cobb even after he knew it was tainted. Had the consignor not insisted it be taken down, he would have sold it to some unsuspecting collector.

Is he still going through with the tax avoidance vault?

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by slidekellyslide

Is he still going through with the tax avoidance vault?

I would presume so although I don't know if people are still comfortable sending cards to it.

[Rhotchkiss]

So I am thinking of sending my collection to this vault in Oregon, what do you guys think?

Originally Posted by wondo

But if it does benefit the hobby and folks get restitution, the pitchforks will be lowered somewhat, which can only be a positive for Brent's future wardrobe.

I hope the pitchforks aim true. I would like to see repercussions as well as restitution.

Keep fighting the good fight BODA - the tide seems to be turning. Thanks again

[BeanTown]

Originally Posted by Rhotchkiss

So I am thinking of sending my collection to this vault in Oregon, what do you guys think?



I hope the pitchforks aim true. I would like to see repercussions as well as restitution.

Keep fighting the good fight BODA - the tide seems to be turning. Thanks again

I still don't understand how the vault thing works? There are still many auction companies that DONT charge tax that I win stuff from. So, whats the advantage?

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by BeanTown

I still don't understand how the vault thing works? There are still many auction companies that DONT charge tax that I win stuff from. So, whats the advantage?

I am not a tax lawyer, but if you buy from an AH that doesn't yet charge sales tax but ships to you, you still owe tax to your home state if it charges it. If the card is shipped to a state that doesn't charge sales tax such as Oregon, you may not owe tax to your home state at least at that point. Please correct me if I have this wrong.

[Rhotchkiss]

Jay, I was totally joking. I will no longer bid or buy from PWCC, so the last thing I would do is send my cards to them! I guess my "joke" missed the mark. I just hope the pitchforks have better aim!

[Fuddjcal]

Originally Posted by oldjudge

Hopefully, Jeff’s involvement will lead to the exposure of all the criminals involved and their imprisonment. I think this ultimately will be a net positive for the hobby.

Hopefully, Santa Claus will come down the chimney December 25th too.

It will all be swept under the rug don't worry.

BUSINESS
AS
USUAL.

Including recoloring, trimming and soaking in chemicals. Whatever it takes to keep PSA & PWCC in business with ZERO ramifications for their business plans to ALWAYS have new cards popping out of THIN AIR, just like they have been doing. You can count on it.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Fuddjcal

Hopefully, Santa Claus will come down the chimney December 25th too.

It will all be swept under the rug don't worry.

BUSINESS
AS
USUAL.

Including recoloring, trimming and soaking in chemicals. Whatever it takes to keep PSA & PWCC in business with ZERO ramifications for their business plans to ALWAYS have new cards popping out of THIN AIR, just like they have been doing. You can count on it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bS3O5zg290k