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Old 04-16-2011, 03:21 PM
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Default Mickey Mantle litho from Front Page Art, Marino forgery's FBI bullpen

Have a question about a Mickey Mantle item.

Here we have a Litho of him, signed by him.

If you look at the "M's" there are clear start and stop points in them. It looks like a very bad attempt at his autograph.

ALSO, the COA is from "FRONT PAGE ART" Angelo Marino and signed on the COA by John Marino ALL people named in the FBI bust.
The family of forgery which was in the operation bullpen fbi bust. Can be seen here: http://sandiego.fbi.gov/bullpen/bullpen.htm

number 2 after wayne bray:

2. John Marino, Gloria Marino, Kathleen Marino
Assisted Forgers and Wholesalers, dba:
a. Front Page Art
Greg Marino, Angelo Marino

Also, when contacted the Angelo Marino that does art said this item was not one of his.
But the artist Angelo MAURO is might be the artist that need to be looked at as that person is the artist of the litho.

HOW can this not be told to the owner when they question if it's a real item as they were worried about maybe having a fake.
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Old 04-16-2011, 03:29 PM
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To me, with all the knowledge about this item and the history of it, if you OK it and tell the person that they have a authentic item, you would be helping with the forgery industry, the autograph forgery industry.

Am I right or wrong?
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Old 04-16-2011, 05:28 PM
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I've seen fakes hanging in people's dens or hobby rooms, and because I was not asked, I did not say a word.

If I was asked, or I thought they were thinking of selling the item, I would have to tell them the truth.
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Old 04-16-2011, 06:56 PM
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I've seen fakes hanging in people's dens or hobby rooms, and because I was not asked, I did not say a word.

If I was asked, or I thought they were thinking of selling the item, I would have to tell them the truth.
You should tell Steve Cyrkin that, as he gave the "OK" on this item, even though it's clear as day a item from Operation Bullpen...

He say's others are part of the fraud industry yet he's doing the same thing!
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Old 04-17-2011, 07:55 AM
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I personally don't think the Mantle is real, anyone else?


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Old 04-17-2011, 09:21 AM
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[QUOTE=Big Dave;887403]I personally don't think the Mantle is real, anyone else?

It's not, it's a MARINO family fake. This is the litho that Marino forged a lot of Mickey's signatures on. But it got the stamp of approval from Steve Cyrkin.
Who looks like the friend of forgery now...
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Old 04-18-2011, 08:12 AM
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I personally don't think the Mantle is real, anyone else?

It's not, it's a MARINO family fake. This is the litho that Marino forged a lot of Mickey's signatures on. But it got the stamp of approval from Steve Cyrkin.
Who looks like the friend of forgery now...
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Old 04-18-2011, 10:18 AM
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It's another loopy - swirl auto that looks good to any customer - send a scan to PSA/DNA QO. - see if it will pass - I think it has a chance - then post the results.
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I never realized that Steve Cyrkin was an authority on baseball autographs.
Where is the COA he issued for this item?
Can you please post it here?
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