1914 Colonels with George Weiss and other Pre-Rookie RPPC's

[h2oya311]

Brian -

And the star/HOFer is...?

Jeff - I recognize a few of those👍

[Brian Van Horn]

Originally Posted by h2oya311

Brian -

And the star/HOFer is...?

Jeff - I recognize a few of those��

Derek,

I would direct you to the second player from the right in the front row. Hint: he is the older brother of two Hall of Famers that played primarily for the Pirates.

[h2oya311]

Brian -

If it's him, that's awesome! If not, he's a pretty good look-alike! Any facial recognition guys take a look at it yet?

[Brian Van Horn]

Derek,

Not trying to sound cocky or arrogant, but I don't need a facial recognition guy. I've seen enough pictures of Paul Waner to know it's him.

[Brian Van Horn]

OT and not a postcard:

[slidekellyslide]

Originally Posted by Brian Van Horn

Derek,

Not trying to sound cocky or arrogant, but I don't need a facial recognition guy. I've seen enough pictures of Paul Waner to know it's him.

What team is this?

[slidekellyslide]

Love that Des Moines with Cicotte RPPC. Wish I could find a postcard with him in Lincoln. I do have a 1907 cabinet photo of the Lincoln team with Cicotte though.

[Brian Van Horn]

Originally Posted by slidekellyslide

What team is this?

Dan,

Most likely a team in Oklahoma which is where the Waners were from.

[slidekellyslide]

Originally Posted by Brian Van Horn

Dan,

Most likely a team in Oklahoma which is where the Waners were from.

Is there any info on the back? Postmarked? AZO Stamp box?

[bmarlowe1]

Originally Posted by Brian Van Horn

Derek,

Not trying to sound cocky or arrogant, but I don't need a facial recognition guy. I've seen enough pictures of Paul Waner to know it's him.

I'm not trying to be cocky or arrogant either, but could could post that face in higher res? I don't know whether it's him or not.

[Brian Van Horn]

Originally Posted by bmarlowe1

I'm not trying to be cocky or arrogant either, but could could post that face in higher res? I don't know whether it's him or not.

Mark,

This is about a hi res as I can get:

[Kawika]

The 1908 Reading Pretzels featuring Home Run Baker. He debuted with the Athletics in September of that year. Not an RPPC but meets the other criteria.


This is the circa 1915 Portland, Maine Duffs coached by HOFer Hugh Duffy whom I believe is in the front row at right. Not a pre-rookie image but what the heck.


1926 Toronto Maple Leafs with 23 year old Carl Hubbell in the front row, still a couple of years away from the Bigs. Another HOFer in the guise of Lionel Conacher is seen in the back row at left. He is in Halls of Fame for hockey, lacrosse and Canadian Football.


Not an RPPC and no HOFers but I'm just itching to post it anyway. 1908 Richmond Colts featuring an essload of T210ers.



Don't have this postcard in hand yet. Won it at auction the other night. The AH claimed matter of fact that the gent at the very left is Casey Stengel with the 1910 Western Dental School ball club (? !). I don't think there's any way that it's Stengel but I liked the card all the same. If I'm wrong then I'll be stoked. Probably what we have is an RPPC of a pre-rookie dentist.

[rhettyeakley]

David, Duffy is the 3rd guy in from left middle row in that Portland postcard... Awesome image!

[h2oya311]

David - that Toronto Team PC is insane! I have yet to see another, but that postcard is still very high on my want list.

[noelbrian55]

David,

Any chance you’d consider any offers on the 1908 Richmond team card? As a lifelong Richmonder, it’s of great interest to me...If not, I understand and my compliments on an amazing piece.

Regards, Brian (noelbrian55@gmail.com)

[bmarlowe1]

Originally Posted by Brian Van Horn

Derek,

Not trying to sound cocky or arrogant, but I don't need a facial recognition guy. I've seen enough pictures of Paul Waner to know it's him.

Brian - I think you do. Before we get to that, the uniform/cap styles of the guys on your image are basically pre-1910 (note especially the collars). Two of the guys have lace up jerseys - so it can even be late 1890s-early 1900s. Paul Waner was born in 1903, so that's a problem and makes the Waner ID unlikely.

What is conclusive are the substantial facial feature differences. I know the scan you posted (below center) is not good, but it's good enough to see that your guy has a nice turned-up nose, while P. Waner had a big hook nose. And yes, the ear is way different. Your guy isn't him.

[Brian Van Horn]

Originally Posted by bmarlowe1

Brain - I think you do. Before we get to that, the uniform/cap styles of the guys on your image are basically pre-1910 (note especially the collars). Two of the guys have lace up jerseys - so it can even be late 1890s-early 1900s. Paul Waner was born in 1903, so that's a problem.

But the real problem is substantial facial feature differences. I know the scan you posted (below center) is not good, but it's good enough to see that your guy has a nice turned-up nose, while P. Waner had a big hook nose. And yes, the ear is way different. Your guy isn't him.

It is Paul Waner. Here is his 1923 Zee Nut rookie card. For me the facial features are consistent which is good enough for me.

[bmarlowe1]

You can't even see facial features in what you just posted. How do you explain the differences shown in my post?